Love Field Discussion: 28 Nov

[canyonblue]

Numerous years of education,
Numerous years of flight training,
Paying your dues for years at a regional,

Once you have done one of these, come back and share with us.

 

[The_Russian]

I can share my opinion of your airlines with you all I want. You guys walk all over this board and talk sh1t about Gulfstream and other regionals. KMA. Get off your high horse canyonblue. It is funny how you guys would have had a lot less to say to me had you not told everyone I work at GIA. The only one who stuck to the subject was Juvat (less the insults). Everyone else just started poking at me personally. Guess you have nothing better to do than look down and point fingers canyonblue.

 

[Dizel8]

"Dont worry about the resume, it wont be going to a LCC."

Don't worry about sending it, with your attitude, you will not be hired anywhere.

"we do 500 mph everyday"

That is one fast turboprop.

"He said &*^*^$$% (name of low fare trash-ways). Go figure. Thats why I have no money a$$hole."

And you wonder why you are getting piled on, you must be dumber than I thought. Mind you, this was before we learned about GIA!

So please: GET OUT OF MY SIGHT!

 

[OakRBust]

Move over Lowely here comes the Russian.

 

[Ty Webb]

I think we have pretty much established that you are definitely a 24 year-old woman, with a Russian last name, unless you found someone to tolerate you long enough to marry you, which seems highly unlikely. Denying that just makes you even less credible.

You have brought the scorn and wrath of this board on your own shoulders, mostly through your wrong-headed comments. Obviously, you have a lot of growing up to do. Please do it somewhere else.

Regards,

TW

 

[The_Russian]

Go eat one Ty. Sorry about your scorn and wrath and all that crap. Maybe you should see a doctor to fix those living wounds. So denying that you guys don't know who I am makes me stupid. Continue to eat foot loser.

Peace out my wanna-be major airline stuck up homies!

 

[Ty Webb]

Don't let the door bump you on your big @ss on the way out.

 

[The_Russian]

OakRBust,

Reminder that I did not start the personal attacks. Few have stuck to the discussion or have bothered to read my posts and/or understand them.

 

[Wesb737fo]

I think the Russian is really a senior Captain at legacy carrier and he's just F#$%N with us. If not, I would have to quote Robin Williams from "Good Morning Vietanam"

"You are in more dire need of a bl#$ job than any white man in America"

Relax sparky! It looks like I will be out on the street soon. My LCC couldn't pull out of its nose dive. I guess that will make you happy. If Continental is hiring I will apply, but it looks like one of the three LCC's you have singled out may have a job for me. If I'm lucky I may be pulling gear for TYWebb. I think it is a shame that some of the people that I have flown with came from other legacy carriers that didn't make it and they will be out there too. Some are now close enough to 60 that they have said they will just "hang it up".

Mostly, I am really curious to know if you did the "PFT 250 hr. $20K " at Gulfstream. If so, how do you justify "the lowering of the bar" theory, when you yourself occupied a seat that someone should have been paid to occupy.

 

[N1atEcon]

I have to admit the "spacewalking" comment had me laughing. Kind of a slap in the face for the guys over at Nasa though. I am sure they or the SR71 or U2 guys loved getting associated with a 1900 FO. How is cruising up and down Florida at 17000 close to space walking? A successful Everest accent, I may give you that one. Now for that we do "500 mph" comment. I have flown in Fl and flown some in a 1900. I have never seen 500mph or 400mph. Maybe a low 300 with a real good push.

The Russian Bear or was it the Backfire was a fast a$$ prop. Not the 1900.

Someone give her the link to the 99's so she will leave.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

I saw a b1tchin Camaro parked at the trailer park down by the landfill. The driver had the coolest mullet I have ever seen.

 

[canyonblue]

Guess you have nothing better to do than look down and point fingers canyonblue.

Guess which finger I'm pointing with now. A Wright Amendment post turned into your commentary on the state of the airline business, and personal jabs at other pilots. Don't post things that you can't back up. Many pilots might not desire to work at a LCC airline, but all pilots would rather see an operation such as GIA go away.

 

[Ty Webb]

How is cruising up and down Florida at 17000 close to space walking?

A successful Everest accent, I may give you that one.

Actually, Everest is at 29,000 MSL. So even crossing the Himalayas is out of the question for the Russian in her mighty Beech, unless she intends to shot-put it over. . . . now, that I would pay to see.

Second thought, maybe she could strap an old JATO bottle to her Camaro and launch right out of the trailer park and into orbit . . . . of course, for this mission, she'd be welcome to the left seat . . . and the right seat . . . and the back seats, too.

 

[mach zero]

Guess which finger I'm pointing with now. A Wright Amendment post turned into your commentary on the state of the airline business, and personal jabs at other pilots. Don't post things that you can't back up. Many pilots might not desire to work at a LCC airline, but all pilots would rather see an operation such as GIA go away.

Agreed...you would think that after paying $20K fly a stretch King Air, one would lay low and display some humility, instead you get this.

 

[flynryan15]

Becky Becky Becky you just don't get it now do you. Don't try to play with the Big Boys cause they are all in a line to spank you!

Now go make your nails nice and pretty so they look good while you are pulling u the gear and flaps for your Captain.

And yes Ty Webb she would try to strap a JATO on her Camaro if she could find one.

Bye Bye Princess

P.S.

 

[flynryan15]

Hey Becky have you been taking that Cessna 172 into any Level 5 Thunderstorms lately?

 

[RVR300]

Guys,

There is a saying: Never argue with an idiot.

Whoever the Russian is, it's not worth the keystrokes.

 

[flynryan15]

The Russian is the next THEGUAT, TOPGUNMAV and TABEXPRESSF/O but a whiny female version. I think she is just a disgruntled F/A that Southwest didn't hire!

 

[miles otoole]

I think the russian A$$CLOWN is Gordon Bufoon's alias. Loosing his senility just as he's about to retire.

 

[bluesideup1]

I don't know why you people are squandering your much higher intellects on something that could barely registers as a retard (sorry need to be P.C. mentally handicapped). Do what I did and everyone can see what I see when the Russian ignoramus decides to open her pie hole:

This message is hidden because The_Russian is on your ignore list.

 

[chris69]

Almost as funny as the old Jedi Nine?!

 

[Lindy]

Unbelievable!

I have not been to this board since 20 October due to circumstances. During this time I have had neither the time nor the inclination to post.

I was EXTREMELY interested in this posting due to the legalities associated with the Wright/Shelby Amendment. Not just from the SWA/AMR perspective, but the legal manuevering. SWA was founded by attorneys and is run by attorneys. Do not lose that in translation.

This post has turned into one of the biggest disappointments. I am sorry that children have hi-jacked the post. IF you do not have something constructive to add to this specific discussion, I suggest that you find another avenue to play.

Chase, as always, thank you for displaying both sides of the argument.

As for PFT, GIA, and other arguments, please GO AWAY. You destroyed a very relevant post and wasted my time.

 

[SWA/FO]

and the post continues...............great job everybody now Mom's home and we are all in trouble!

 

[RVSM]

This was a pretty good thread up until it went down a rabbit trail.

Something to think about.

SWA started in 1974. (IIRC)
The DAL legacy carriers signed the move to DFW agreement in 1973.
SWA having not signed such an agreement had to take the legal action to be able to maintain the ability to offer service from a U.S. public Airport.

The Wright Amendment was not enacted until 1979, after SWA announced its first service outside of Texas.

In 2000 or 2001 Legend airlinnes anounced that they were going to fly long haul out of Love using DC9s configured to seat 56 pax.

Want to guess who filed the initial lawsuits to stop them.

Want to guess who started RJ service out of Love Field as soon as Legend announced its intentions.

Want to guess who pulled out of Love Field right after the legal fight bled all of Legends start up capital and the airline closed its doors.

Just a little food for thought.

 

[lowecur]

Not very nice are they?

But that's not really the point. The point is how do you protect DFW for at least 3 more years. As long as this 800lb gorilla is allowed to turn DAL into their own private field with 300 flts per day, this would keep any other LCC out of DFW due to higher costs of operation, not enough a/c to fight the fight, and a geographical disadvantage of a 30 minute commute as opposed to 10 minutes from Downtown Dallas. I say repeal it now, if Southwest will cap their gate space at DAL to the present amount. Otherwise, let it ride until the end of 2007, when AirTran, Jetblue, VUSA, and probably Spirit will have enough planes to fill out the remaining gates at DAL or DFW.

 

[:-)]

Not very nice are they?

But that's not really the point. The point is how do you protect DFW for at least 3 more years. As long as this 800lb gorilla is allowed to turn DAL into their own private field with 300 flts per day, this would keep any other LCC out of DFW due to higher costs of operation, not enough a/c to fight the fight, and a geographical disadvantage of a 30 minute commute as opposed to 10 minutes from Downtown Dallas. I say repeal it now, if Southwest will cap their gate space at DAL to the present amount. Otherwise, let it ride until the end of 2007, when AirTran, Jetblue, VUSA, and probably Spirit will have enough planes to fill out the remaining gates at DAL or DFW.

My sources tell me that Spirit's ownership is threatening to close the doors. I'll try and get more info, but the last I heard, their owner says that they won't last past next fall. I've got a few good friends at Spirit, I hope that they don't go the way of Southeast. This business sux sometimes.

 

[lowecur]

My sources tell me that Spirit's ownership is threatening to close the doors. I'll try and get more info, but the last I heard, their owner says that they won't last past next fall. I've got a few good friends at Spirit, I hope that they don't go the way of Southeast. This business sux sometimes.

I hope you're wrong Calvin. They recently had a cash infusion by a sugar daddy of $125M, and there is more if needed it was said. The sugar daddy may be holding a caveat over the owners head that they will not infuse any more money unless the payroll is reduced. I know the present ownership wants to take the company public but that may be impossible unless expenses are further reduced. Let's hope with the recent reduction of oil in the last few days that this is a sign of the bubble bursting and further reductions are on the horizon. This would give a respite to all in need.

 

[enigma]

I hope you're wrong Calvin. They recently had a cash infusion by a sugar daddy of $125M, and there is more if needed it was said. The sugar daddy may be holding a caveat over the owners head that they will not infuse any more money unless the payroll is reduced. I know the present ownership wants to take the company public but that may be impossible unless expenses are further reduced. Let's hope with the recent reduction of oil in the last few days that this is a sign of the bubble bursting and further reductions are on the horizon. This would give a respite to all in need.

Low, I too hope that Calvin is wrong.

If Spirit goes down, then everybody is going down, because we have the LOWEST NON-FUEL COSTS in the industry. I don't have time to dig it up, but the owner has been quoted in an article in the south Florida press as saying just that, that we are the lowest cost carrier. Unfortunately, we reached the lowcost grail by paying the lowest. Only (possibly) Frontier pays less, and that is debatable because, hour for hour, Frontier pays more. We are no better paid than most senior RJ pilots. As of today, our MEC is meeting with the boss. If those guys fail us, we might just decertify the blinking union.

The owner has cried wolf before and it was a bluff. He won that time, so he apparently has decided to try again.

Good Luck to us all,
enigma

 

[PHXFLYR]

Good luck,Enigma. I hope that the emminent shut down is just a mgmt bluff and you guys stick around. I hate it when they try this shiet around Christmas ...!!

PHXFLYR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I was EXTREMELY interested in this posting due to the legalities associated with the Wright/Shelby Amendment. Not just from the SWA/AMR perspective, but the legal manuevering. SWA was founded by attorneys and is run by attorneys. Do not lose that in translation.

Agreed!!















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