Legacy Bashfest - Bring it on!

[banned username 2]

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Thanks for playing. I think the Legacy can go PANC-ZBAA just fine.

ROFLMAO... Once again, your ignorance is obvious... Have you ever looked at the winds along that route??? Especially in the Winter??? Of course not, because no one in their right mind would take a WSofD from PANC-ZBAA... Running it with average January winds, doing Mach 0.80 it shows a 8+24 flight time... I don't think the WSofD can stay in the air doing Mach 0.80 for an 8+24 leg and have any kind of realistic reserve upon landing...

Thanks for playing...

At any rate, why spend $36M plus $2000/hour to go there in a G-IV when:
1) a fractional share...
2) a first class jumbo jet ride...
or 3) a fuel stop in a Legacy costs much *much* less?

1. Why not just do Fractional all the time?
2. First Class is ALWAYS cheaper than a Legacy ride... on ANY stage length...
3. Have you done a fuel stop in Russia? Japan? Handling fee's can exceed $10,000 USD not to mention fuel can ge $5.00+ USD per gallon in some locations... Once again, your ignorance and Domestic only experience is utterly appearant...

 

[LegacyDriver]

ROFLMAO... Once again, your ignorance is obvious... Have you ever looked at the winds along that route??? Especially in the Winter??? Of course not, because no one in their right mind would take a WSofD from PANC-ZBAA... Running it with average January winds, doing Mach 0.80 it shows a 8+24 flight time... I don't think the WSofD can stay in the air doing Mach 0.80 for an 8+24 leg and have any kind of realistic reserve upon landing...

Thanks for playing...



1. Why not just do Fractional all the time?
2. First Class is ALWAYS cheaper than a Legacy ride... on ANY stage length...
3. Have you done a fuel stop in Russia? Japan? Handling fee's can exceed $10,000 USD not to mention fuel can ge $5.00+ USD per gallon in some locations... Once again, your ignorance and Domestic only experience is utterly appearant...

The only person ignorant here is you.

As previously stated, I took a Legacy for 9 hours just to see if it could be done. We had enough gas to tool around longer if we wanted.

I have been to Mexico and Russia among others and have yet to see a $10,000 handling fee.

As for Fractional-All-The-Time...that's what a lot of people are doing. The Legacy can handle the pounding. The Gulfstream can't. The Legacy is affordable. The Gulfstream isn't. There is a reason why fractionals are going away from the Gulfstream to the Legacy and it isn't because the Legacy is a POS.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Let's remember this "Average Number" you like to use includes all the short range Corporate airplanes as well, such as the Citations, Lears, Hawkers, etc... Which outnumber the largers, long range aircraft... You are trying to compare the Lagacy with Gulfstreams, you have to use their average stage length info... And remember an average is just that, it means 1/2 the trips are longer and half are shorter...

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Don't forget, this is Skull-One you are talking to... Remember the "Wrongfully Terminated ERJ Captain"... Nothing is ever his fault and he is never wrong... He never did explain why he was terminated, but obviously it was bad enough that even his union couldn't haul his a$$ out of the fire...

Well you've certainly explained MEDIAN. How about explaining "average"? Average can mean that 9 legs are shorter and ONE leg is longer, idiot. To find out what G-Strings do most often try finding the MODE.

As for pulling asses out of the fire, Skull-One's termination...it was overturned and he was paid 11 months back pay. That's the way arbitration works. Unions don't keep one from getting canned, they are there (now since they are so weak) to get one's job *back* later. Ask *any* pilot at CHQ who has dealt with them, particularly Union Reps. The company's attitude is, "If you don't like it, grieve it." So get off your soap box on that subject and stick to the issues. (I talked to the Union's righthand man on this case so I know what I'm talking about here.)

 

[bigD]

Heh - calling Falcon Capt "ignorant" and an "idiot" isn't going to do you any favors, Mr. Legacy.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Heh - calling Falcon Capt "ignorant" and an "idiot" isn't going to do you any favors, Mr. Legacy.

I don't need favors from jerks like him.

 

[JetPilot500]

Heh - calling Falcon Capt "ignorant" and an "idiot" isn't going to do you any favors, Mr. Legacy.

Sure it will...I do it all the time!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

You are an idiot.

The average Corporate Jet leg (according to at least SOME surveys any way--I am sure GV has a different set of them) is 1200-1500 NM. So, we'll double that for the G-String and add some. The Legacy does the same thing. You know, most US Corporate jets do the bulk of their flying here in the States, Canada, and Mexico. The Legacy will do all of them just fine.

And if one wants to go to Tokyo from LA like my boss does from time to time, he goes FIRST CLASS on a 747. It's cheaper than a G-V can ever be...

Get a grip.

Oh, and one thing more, short duration, multi-cycle trips like the Regionals do are far more dangerous than going non-stop from SF to Tokyo. Most accidents occur during the takeoff and landing phases, not cruise. Thus, the Legacy/RJ's safety record is only that much more impressive. They are operating in the most dangerous environments and doing so perfectly thus far.

Most bizjets operate in the states?? For One, my company flies 4000-5000 hrs/yr....75% International - and no, regional boy, Mexico and the Carribean ARE NOT International...

you now lost all credibility and have proven yourself to be just what we all thought you might be....

a commuter aircraft pilot.

 

[JetPilot500]

Legacy Driver,
When ever I read your posts, I am reminded of this:

Don't think twice, for it is the patients of people such as ourselves (on this board), that allows us to tolerate a person such as yourself.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Thanks for playing. I think the Legacy can go PANC-ZBAA just fine.

At any rate, why spend $36M plus $2000/hour to go there in a G-IV when:
1) a fractional share...
2) a first class jumbo jet ride...
or 3) a fuel stop in a Legacy costs much *much* less?

Do you know where ZBAA is?

Fuel stops and saving money?? ...HELLO!!!....airline boy....HELLO!!!...

do you realize how short your career in the corporate world would be if you told you boss it would cheaper to make 4 fuel stops in Russia on the way to China then to waste all that money on a Gulfstream!!

stick to the Embryo flying, Ace..its all you can handle at this point.

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[LegacyDriver]

Most bizjets operate in the states?? For One, my company flies 4000-5000 hrs/yr....75% International - and no, regional boy, Mexico and the Carribean ARE NOT International...

you now lost all credibility and have proven yourself to be just what we all thought you might be....

a commuter aircraft pilot.

So you are telling me:

1) MOST business jets, particularly N-Registered corporate planes operate internationally mostly/exclusively? HAHAHA! That's hysterical.

2) Mexico is not International? HAHAHAH! When did it become the 51st state?

Talk about credibility.

 

[bigD]

Sure it will...I do it all the time!

LMAO! You're gonna get it for that one!

 

[banned username 2]

The only person ignorant here is you.

As previously stated, I took a Legacy for 9 hours just to see if it could be done. We had enough gas to tool around longer if we wanted.

9 hours at Mach 0.68 doesn't get your very far... Max endurance can hold you in the air, but you aren't covering much ground...

You can only polish a turd so much... You wore the shine off this one a LONG time ago, now it is really smelling bad... real bad...

As for pulling asses out of the fire, Skull-One's termination...it was overturned and he was paid 11 months back pay. That's the way arbitration works.

What are you talking about, YOU ARE SKULL-ONE... Confirmed...

 

[banned username 2]

I have been to Mexico and Russia among others and have yet to see a $10,000 handling fee.

Try Osaka in the middle of the night, or Chitose... Mexico... LOL!!!!! Obviously you don't fly International... Like Gulfstream200 said, anyone who flies a lot of International doesn't consider Mexico, Canada or the Carribbean as an "International Destination"...

WSofD!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

The infamous Embryo or RJ resume that crosses the fax with "International Experience"

to Mexico and the Carribbean.

.......

 

[JetBlast2000]

FalconCapt,
Do you think your being a little hard on the Legacy? Like I said before it does not match the G IV in a lot of categories, but it does come close. Or, is there so much animosity with LegacyDriver that objectivity has gone out the window? Just curious…

BTW I understand the Embryo, ahh Embraer will have a corporate version of the E-145. I don’t have any numbers, but I understand it’s coming...