Legacy Bashfest - Bring it on!

[aeronautic1]

This thread

WAFWOT !

 

[AA717driver]

Then don't read it. There are plenty of technical message boards or Michael Jackson and Martha Steward boards. Howabout ESPN.com? Lots of stuff to read if you don't want to read about the WSCoD.TC

 

[Brett Hull]

Calling all computer nerds

Apparantly I'm not up to speed on my computer nerd lingo. What's WAFWOT mean?

 

[bigD]

WAFWOT=What A F'in Waste Of Time

Personally, I think this thread is hilarious, and informative too!

 

[GVFlyer]

I'm sorry but the Jetstar beats em all!!!!!!!!!

The military version of the Jetstar was the VC140/C-140B and was powered by the Pratt & Whitney JT12's which meant you couldn't stay in one long enough to get uncomfortable. The Air Force didn't re-engine them with the Garrett Air Research engines that came on the Jetstar II because to have done so would have extended their service life and postponed the acquisition of the C-20A/B's (G-III). The Lockheed was a solid airplane.

GV

 

[murfdawg998]

I looked at the WSofD in your avatar. Third World POS is the first thing that comes to mind; WEASEL if I'm feeling charitable.

took the words right outta my mouth!! haha

 

[suen1843]

Another poster somewhere around here mentioned that the Legacy is a vehicle manufactured by Subaru.

Read it BACKWARDS u r a bus

I think most people who can afford it would rather ride in a limo, not a bus!

 

[banned username 2]

This thread is like a cockroach, it just won't die!

WSofD!

 

[GEXDriver]

GV, I usually like what you write, but YOU are the one who is naive here:



1. In a lease, the lessee does not get the depreciation because the bank does and it figures directly into the lease payment.



2. Depreciation is only tax DEFERRAL, not a write-off. This means that you are only deferring the tax payment and therefore, can only look at the time-value of the money that is deferred. Some then talk about like-kind exchange, this also needs to be closely scrutinized as the basis in the newly acquired aircraft is less the amount of the deferral, and so is the amount that is depreciated (deferred.)



Also, this bonus is only for purchases of new aircraft and they must be put into service by the end of 2005 (backlog at Gulfstream prevents this.)



Nice try, though.



Ace

I went to my accountant today to discuss strategies to avoid the Alternative Minimum Tax, determine what investments to sell in this tax year, how to be taxed at capital gains rate rather than at normal rate on these sales and so on.

I was curious, so I took a screen dump of GV's tax posts on bonus depreciation with me. My tax professional said that everything that GV posted was correct.

 

[LegacyDriver]

All I can say is the Gulfstream cabin is not enough of an improvement to matter to me. I still have to crouch to walk through it, it is nearly identical aesthetically, and the baggage compartment is puny. Yes, this week I flew 15 ppl and we filled every inch of the baggage compartment. EVERY INCH. Thank gawd EMB was smart enough to leave it big. Leftover from the RJ you say, but glad to have it.

Long live the Legacy!

 

[G100driver]

All I can say is the Gulfstream cabin is not enough of an improvement to matter to me. I still have to crouch to walk through it, it is nearly identical aesthetically, and the baggage compartment is puny. Yes, this week I flew 15 ppl and we filled every inch of the baggage compartment. EVERY INCH. Thank gawd EMB was smart enough to leave it big. Leftover from the RJ you say, but glad to have it.

Long live the Legacy!

I throughly enjoyed this string ... but give it a rest. You like the WSCoD, great we got it.

Have a Merry Christmas though, and to all, be thankful for the jobs that you do have ... WSCoD or otherwise.

 

[G100driver]

All I can say is the Gulfstream cabin is not enough of an improvement to matter to me. I still have to crouch to walk through it, it is nearly identical aesthetically, and the baggage compartment is puny. Yes, this week I flew 15 ppl and we filled every inch of the baggage compartment. EVERY INCH. Thank gawd EMB was smart enough to leave it big. Leftover from the RJ you say, but glad to have it.

Long live the Legacy!

I throughly enjoyed this string ... but give it a rest. You like the WSCoD, great we got it.

Have a Merry Christmas, though and to all be thankful to the jobs that you do have ... WSCoD or otherwise.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

I went to my accountant today to discuss strategies to avoid the Alternative Minimum Tax, determine what investments to sell in this tax year, how to be taxed at capital gains rate rather than at normal rate on these sales and so on.

I was curious, so I took a screen dump of GV's tax posts on bonus depreciation with me. My tax professional said that everything that GV posted was correct.

As is everything I posted. Check with him again (that is if he works with high net-worth individuals). Many lower level accountants confuse tax differal with tax write off.

Thanks for taking this issue so seriously.

Ace

 

[GVFlyer]

WSCoD

All I can say is the Gulfstream cabin is not enough of an improvement to matter to me.

Fortunately, it does matter to the over 800 operators of GIV/GV type aircraft.

I still have to crouch to walk through it, it is nearly identical aesthetically...

The Gulfstream cabin is four inches taller, five inches wider and between 2.5 feet and 7 feet longer than the Legacy cabin, depending on Gulfstream model.

For aesthetics, the average Gulfstream customer spends just over $6.5 million on their interior completion. What is the "green" cost of a Legacy?

...and the baggage compartment is puny.

The G550's 226 cubic foot baggage area is 5.8% smaller than the Legacy's 240 cu. ft and 13% larger than the baggage area on the Global Express XRS. The over 16 cubic feet of baggage allowance for each passenger on the GV is generous.

Yes, this week I flew 15 ppl and we filled every inch of the baggage compartment. EVERY INCH. Thank gawd EMB was smart enough to leave it big. Leftover from the RJ you say, but glad to have it.

I also flew 15 passengers this week and althought I had to put one passenger in the crew rest area and the flight attendant on the jump seat, I had no difficulty accomodating their luggage and a box of three LRU's for the maintenance guys. But, my experience is empirical and thereby doesn't matter. What counts are the numbers as they are a constant and the Gulfstream's numbers are constantly better than the Legacy's in every aspect and regime of flight.

You know, customers can customize the interior of their aircraft to meet their needs. Most G550's have a forward crew rest area, a forward vacuum lav, a forward mini-galley for the crew, cabinets for world-wide Jepp storage and one or two closets for hanging garments. This space could be used differently, as could the space for the seven foot entertainment credenza and the four place dining area, but converting the jet into an airliner or a freighter isn't what Gulfstreams are about.

At one time, Gulfstream demonstrators were completed with a forward crew baggage area for the company issued Zero Haliburton aluminum suitcases. To my knowledge, no one has ever asked Gulfstream for a modified rear baggage area, but one of the Globals that Gulfstream brokered as a result of a trade-in had been completed with a larger baggage area. Instead of the straight Global's 1915 cu. ft cabin and 185 cu. ft. baggage area, this one had been set up with a 1775 cu. ft cabin and a 325 cu. ft. baggage area.

GV








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[suen1843]

The new Subaru Legacy GT Spec B is powered by a 276-hp single twin-scroll turbocharged and intercooled 2.0-liter flat-four. No, it's not yet sold in America, but we hear it will be in 2005.

The GT Spec B receives a more aggressive front bumper than the standard Legacy and significant aerocladding underneath. Inside, a driver-oriented cockpit features a small, sporty airbag-equipped three-spoke MOMO steering wheel similar to the new WRX STi. Both 4AT and 5AT sport models are blessed with tiptronic-style upshift/downshift buttons on the steering wheel.

Inside, the tachometer and speedometer are equally emphasized, clear and informative with a subdued classy style. Seating is top-notch, managing to coddle you on long trips while giving you a measure of control while canyon carving. Hurtling the car around Fuji International, however, reveals the car exhibits higher limits than the side bolstering.

More info available at the MotorTrend website.

Match that one G5....TWIN-SCROLL TURBOCHARGER.

 

[GVFlyer]

The new Subaru Legacy GT Spec B is powered by a 276-hp single twin-scroll turbocharged and intercooled 2.0-liter flat-four. No, it's not yet sold in America, but we hear it will be in 2005.

The GT Spec B receives a more aggressive front bumper than the standard Legacy and significant aerocladding underneath. Inside, a driver-oriented cockpit features a small, sporty airbag-equipped three-spoke MOMO steering wheel similar to the new WRX STi. Both 4AT and 5AT sport models are blessed with tiptronic-style upshift/downshift buttons on the steering wheel.

Inside, the tachometer and speedometer are equally emphasized, clear and informative with a subdued classy style. Seating is top-notch, managing to coddle you on long trips while giving you a measure of control while canyon carving. Hurtling the car around Fuji International, however, reveals the car exhibits higher limits than the side bolstering.

More info available at the MotorTrend website.

Match that one G5....TWIN-SCROLL TURBOCHARGER.

The 2005 Gulfstream Friendship G 7 Motorhome has only a single turbocharger on it's Cat 350 Diesel, but more than compensates for it with cubic inches and it's Dual Tone 6-Way Power Co-Pilot seat with Footrest.


http://www.martinsburgrv.com/auto_detail.php3?tp=NEW&id=767

GV

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Aaaahhhh sarcasm!! My favorite!!

......can't believe no one has taken a shot at the name yet! Legacy-inheritance................ Unless it's some Portugese word that translates to mean bird of prey or perhaps some sort of weapon (heck, even the Tomahawk had a cool name! ). And before you even go after my vintage transportation L.D.max......even Lear, translated literally, means short, fat, mad scientist that invented the eight track.....regardless, neophytes still associate the name with something fast. Personally, I think the name was intended in it's English translation(inheritance) and the Brazilians are laughing all the way to the bank. Inheritance......as in, just another low quality product shipped from south of the border under the NAFTA.

 

[banned username 2]

Fortunately, it does matter to the over 800 operators of GIV/GV type aircraft.

The Gulfstream cabin is four inches taller, five inches wider and between 2.5 feet and 7 feet longer than the Legacy cabin, depending on Gulfstream model.

For aesthetics, the average Gulfstream customer spends just over $6.5 million on their interior completion. What is the "green" cost of a Legacy?


The G550's 226 cubic foot baggage area is 5.8% smaller than the Legacy's 240 cu. ft and 13% larger than the baggage area on the Global Express XRS. The over 16 cubic feet of baggage allowance for each passenger on the GV is generous.

I also flew 15 passengers this week and althought I had to put one passenger in the crew rest area and the flight attendant on the jump seat, I had no difficulty accomodating their luggage and a box of three LRU's for the maintenance guys. But, my experience is empirical and thereby doesn't matter. What counts are the numbers as they are a constant and the Gulfstream's numbers are constantly better than the Legacy's in every aspect and regime of flight.

You know, customers can customize the interior of their aircraft to meet their needs. Most G550's have a forward crew rest area, a forward vacuum lav, a forward mini-galley for the crew, cabinets for world-wide Jepp storage and one or two closets for hanging garments. This space could be used differently, as could the space for the seven foot entertainment credenza and the four place dining area, but converting the jet into an airliner or a freighter isn't what Gulfstreams are about.

At one time, Gulfstream demonstrators were completed with a forward crew baggage area for the company issued Zero Haliburton aluminum suitcases. To my knowledge, no one has ever asked Gulfstream for a modified rear baggage area, but one of the Globals that Gulfstream brokered as a result of a trade-in had been completed with a larger baggage area. Instead of the straight Global's 1915 cu. ft cabin and 185 cu. ft. baggage area, this one had been set up with a 1775 cu. ft cabin and a 325 cu. ft. baggage area.

GV~

Ah yes, LegacyDriver gets yet another b!tch-slapping... But for some strange reason, I have a feeling he'll be coming back for more!

Who ever though a WSofD could be such a conversation piece!

 

[LegacyDriver]

6.5 Million for *that*? Dude, you got ripped off.

The cabin is bigger to the extent that it is unnoticeable.

 

[suen1843]

Legacy.....if you don't understand how a large corp aircraft completion can top 6 million then you need to go back to the regionals. I have seen custom completed seats go for $100,000 each. Oh...wait a sec...I guess the EMB seats are interchangeable with the Subaru Legacy (U-R-A-BUS) seats.