Legacy Bashfest - Bring it on!

[Gulfstream 200]

sounds to me like you ran into someone who cant "afford" (in his words) a real bizjet like a GV or a GLEX.

The day he can, you can bet he will ditch the WSoD.

niche -- corporate shuttle for mid level execs.

apples and oranges when comparing it to real long range bizjets.

Previous post is right....give it a rest for gods sakes!!!!

 

[LegacyDriver]

sounds to me like you ran into someone who cant "afford" (in his words) a real bizjet like a GV or a GLEX.

The day he can, you can bet he will ditch the WSoD.

niche -- corporate shuttle for mid level execs.

apples and oranges when comparing it to real long range bizjets.

Previous post is right....give it a rest for gods sakes!!!!

Yeah, well, he's one of the top 100 wealthiest men in the United States. He can afford anything he darned well pleases.

The Legacy is every bit as good a Corporate Jet as anything else you can name. It is proving itself over and over again to be more than adequate for the task.

All your moaning is sour grapes. You give it up.

 

[banned username 2]

If a Legacy will do the job for them for less money then the prudent person will buy it. It's that simple.

Here in lies the problem... It doesn't...

 

[LegacyDriver]

Here in lies the problem... It doesn't...

Herein lies your problem, it does. It covers the mission spectrum from the lowliest Citation to the G-IV without complaint. Every single day it does what most G-IVs are doing...for less.

 

[banned username 2]

Herein lies your problem, it does. It covers the mission spectrum from the lowliest Citation to the G-IV without complaint. Every single day it does what most G-IVs are doing...for less.

Flies non-stop 4,200 NM? Climbs direct to FL410 at MGTOW? Cruises at Mach 0.80 when it does get there? Continues the climb to FL450? Does all of this out of 5,400 ft of runway?

The G-IV does, the WSofD doesn't...

 

[JetBlast2000]

Flies non-stop 4,200 NM? Climbs direct to FL410 at MGTOW? Cruises at Mach 0.80 when it does get there? Continues the climb to FL450? Does all of this out of 5,400 ft of runway?

Well, no.

But it does come close… It also costs almost half as much and operates at a substantial savings per hour…

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Well, no.

But it does come close… It also costs almost half as much and operates at a substantial savings per hour…

And saving money is high on the priority list when selecting a bizjet to fit your needs.....

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Thats how the rich got rich right?, by buying cheap $hit like Embryos..

 

[JetBlast2000]

And saving money is high on the priority list when selecting a bizjet to fit your needs.....

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Thats how the rich got rich right?, by buying cheap $hit like Embryos..

Well,
I'm just saying that price IS a factor. Lets face it, the boss is always looking at the bottom line. None of this BS is cut and dry, and you can't make determinations based on ONE area alone. Is the Legacy the BEST corp. a/c... well, probably not. But, when you look as some of the numbers (below), the Legacy is not far off.

Here's a comparison to help stir the pot a little:

TEB to OAK, SFO as an alternate. 325 lb payload (1 passenger plus luggage and crew luggage), optium routing and altitudes per JetPlan. Max fuel, except GV, I used 5000 lb landing fuel.

EMB - 5+37, 13429 burn and FL350, step 390 3+00 hrs into flight. M.78 cruise (max allowed in JetPlan), and 4387 lbs remaining at alternate. Max passenger load for this flight could be up to 10.
F2TH - 6+00, 9216 burn and FL430, step 470 3+15 hrs into flight. M75 cruise (in order to land with 2000 lbs), and 2265 lbs remaining at alternate. Max passenger load for this mission could be up to 4.
GV - 5+24, 14,480 burn and FL430, step to 470 1+00 hrs into flight. M83 cruise (standard cruise for us), and 5000 lbs remaining at alternate. The max passenger load for this flight could be up to 16 (really 19).

Looks like the Falcon could be in trouble here

 

[Gulfstream 200]

greeeeat...LA to NY.

please run the Embryos numbers on RJAA-KTEB...a typical GV trip
(ever heard of Magadan?)

c'mon now...YOU ARE giving the G's and the Glex's a run for thier money right?

 

[LegacyDriver]

Flies non-stop 4,200 NM? Climbs direct to FL410 at MGTOW? Cruises at Mach 0.80 when it does get there? Continues the climb to FL450? Does all of this out of 5,400 ft of runway?

The G-IV does, the WSofD doesn't...

The average G-IV trip is not 4,200 NM. The average G-IV trip is precisely what everyone else is doing: 1200-1500 NM. Ignoring that, let's just call it NY-CA. That is the average trip for a G-IV. They are not going LAS to Europe on average. For crying out loud, the G-Strings are doing exactly what the Legacy(s) are...I see the same tail numbers over and over again.

When you need to go 4,200 NM then go in rented G-IV or make a fuel stop with the EMB on the rare occasion you go that far.