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[hyflyt560]

I'm on mil leave too (BTW, Bogota is awesome!), is there a way to put in an equipment bid...in the event a freeze is lifted?

 

[Andy]

I'm on mil leave too (BTW, Bogota is awesome!), is there a way to put in an equipment bid...in the event a freeze is lifted?

I flew out to DEN yesterday to visit my kids; stopped by flight ops. Since I'm on mil leave, I'm not able to log on to unimatic, but one of the managers went to my BIDREQ screen for me.
One thing that I didn't realize is that your BIDREQ screen gets cleared once you are awarded a bid - in my case, a lateral to LAX. I had her put me in for one bid, DCA 767 FO.
Once I am awarded DCA, I'll go back to a domicile and have a flight manager put in a new BIDREQ with 777 & 400 FO listed on it. I don't expect anything to happen for the next couple of years, but you never know. For me, I want to be on the highest paying job while on mil leave, since our B&C funds are still funded by UAL. And at this point, I'm thinking of staying on mil leave until 2012 (I'm an IMA reservist able to get extensions to the end of fiscal year on my 179 day tours and will be active duty retirement eligible in 2008).

But to answer your question more succintly - contact your domiciles' flight manager and have him update your BIDREQ screen. It can probably be done by phone, e-mail, or fax.

I haven't had a chance to go to South America yet; it's on my list of things to do. Glad to hear that Bogata's nice. I'm hoping to make it to Rio for Carnivale one of these years....

 

[plnegoofy]

any new info on the recalls...hasnt been any new news for a couple of weeks. or is UAL still at 744 to go on the list?

 

[Varig]

I haven't had a chance to go to South America yet; it's on my list of things to do. Glad to hear that Bogata's nice. I'm hoping to make it to Rio for Carnivale one of these years....

Andy, let me know when you want to come down and I'll show you around. This year's Carnaval was awesome. I am sure you would like it.:beer:

 

[Andy]

Andy, let me know when you want to come down and I'll show you around. This year's Carnaval was awesome. I am sure you would like it.:beer:

I'm sure of that. ... and I hear that it's much wilder than Mardi Gras.
I brought my girlfriend (now wife) to Mardi Gras back in 2003. She was ticked off that I brought her, but ended up having a great time once she got into it. Now, she's looking forward to the day that we go to Carnaval. I show 31 Jan thru 5 Feb for '08's Carnaval. If the wife's not pregnant at that time, I think that we'll make it down this time.
Mardi Gras was a great warmup for this; she is now looking forward to Carnaval.

 

[Slug]

Congrats Pinkie

Sounds like things are working out great for you!


The Brain
Slug
Gerald

 

[Varig]

I'm sure of that. ... and I hear that it's much wilder than Mardi Gras.
I brought my girlfriend (now wife) to Mardi Gras back in 2003. She was ticked off that I brought her, but ended up having a great time once she got into it. Now, she's looking forward to the day that we go to Carnaval. I show 31 Jan thru 5 Feb for '08's Carnaval. If the wife's not pregnant at that time, I think that we'll make it down this time.
Mardi Gras was a great warmup for this; she is now looking forward to Carnaval.

Yep, Carnaval is wilder. People here go nuts during Carnaval. I am sure she would have fun here also if she enjoyed Mardi Gras. Believe it or not, preparation for next year is already underway.
I do hope you guys come and experience it first hand. If you need anything let me know.

 

[Andy]

Sounds like things are working out great for you!


The Brain
Slug
Gerald

Life's great for me; hope all's well with you.
The labotomy that I got when I pinned on O-5 is paying huge dividends. I'm actually enjoying the staff puke job that I've got and have figured out how to conform to the military stuff. I've even got a good shot at O-6 ... what a long, strange trip it's been (for the Deadheads out there). I got a 767 FO slot when recalled and plan on taking the full six years of mil leave; I'll have ~24 years active duty time when I return to UAL.
... and just to live up to my nickname, I wore a pink dress shirt with a suit to my 20th Academy reunion. My wife picked it out. Real men fear no color.


Varig, I was looking at booking a room at the JW Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. Is that I a good location for Carnaval?

 

[Varig]

Andy,

Avenida Atlantica in Sao Paulo or Rio? The best place to go is Salvador. That is the main city for Carnaval but other cities are worth it as well. In Rio de Janeiro it is usually better than Sao Paulo. Let me know and I'll let you know.

 

[Andy]

Andy,

Avenida Atlantica in Sao Paulo or Rio? The best place to go is Salvador. That is the main city for Carnaval but other cities are worth it as well. In Rio de Janeiro it is usually better than Sao Paulo. Let me know and I'll let you know.

Salvador? I wasn't aware of that. I was looking at the JW in Rio; I thought that Rio was the big place to go. I'll have to see what's available in Salvador; the only reason why I was able to book Rio during Carnaval is because I'm a platinum with Marriott, otherwise I couldn't have booked there. Unfortunately, Marriott doesn't have any hotels in Salvador.

 

[Varig]

Yes, Salvador is the main city. Marriot in Avenida Atlantica is good also. It is close to the action and not too difficult to move around if need be. It gets pretty wild in Rio so don't get me wrong about Rio but the main city for it is Salvador.

 

[Andy]

Varig, thanks for the info. I've locked in reservations at the JW Marriott in Rio for 30 Jan to 6 Feb 08.


Back to on topic - Recalls for United. It looks like they're going to have one class of 15 in March and one class of 15 in April. The number of recalls in class are decreasing due to TK (UAL's training center) getting pretty backed up.
As of 28 Feb, they're up to #8330, hire date 10/1/2000, on the way back up the seniority list (junior man is #8655 on the latest seniority list) with 700 remaining on bypass.

 

[Varig]

Varig, thanks for the info. I've locked in reservations at the JW Marriott in Rio for 30 Jan to 6 Feb 08.


Back to on topic - Recalls for United. It looks like they're going to have one class of 15 in March and one class of 15 in April. The number of recalls in class are decreasing due to TK (UAL's training center) getting pretty backed up.
As of 28 Feb, they're up to #8330, hire date 10/1/2000, on the way back up the seniority list (junior man is #8655 on the latest seniority list) with 700 remaining on bypass.

No problem Andy. Let me know if you need anything and thanks for the update also

 

[ampropilot2b]

Ok, so if #8330 has been recalled, how many more does that leave yet to be offered the second opportunity/last chance. Also, what is the hire date for the most senior pilot on furlough. Anyone have the latest number on resignations/LOAs. Take a stab at hiring based on the latest info?

 

[C5 Guy]

Slug,

How's life at SWA? Assume you have resigned from the U. The BBJ drivers in my squadron have had good luck getting hired and boosting your seniority lately.

Scott B.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Ok, so if #8330 has been recalled, how many more does that leave yet to be offered the second opportunity/last chance. Also, what is the hire date for the most senior pilot on furlough. Anyone have the latest number on resignations/LOAs. Take a stab at hiring based on the latest info?

Two posts before yours Andy says that there are 700 still on bypass.

No way to tell how many of the 700 will come back. They all might, or they might not. Impossible to tell without talking with each one of them.

GP

 

[Andy]

Ok, so if #8330 has been recalled, how many more does that leave yet to be offered the second opportunity/last chance. Also, what is the hire date for the most senior pilot on furlough. Anyone have the latest number on resignations/LOAs. Take a stab at hiring based on the latest info?

700 remain on bypass. I don't know the hire date of the senior pilot on bypass; the senior guy to get furloughed was hired Sep 98.
Newhire guess for me - late 07 or early 08.

 

[Andy]

Slug,

How's life at SWA? Assume you have resigned from the U. The BBJ drivers in my squadron have had good luck getting hired and boosting your seniority lately.

Scott B.

Slug probably hasn't resigned yet; there are just over 300 numbers to go before he has to resign.

 

[W8N4UAL]

Just returned from my first week of RPT. Not much to be said different from what has been said here already. There are no shortage of concerns: fundamental business plan execution, consolidation, labor strife, age 65, terrorism, etc. There was a lot of talk about the new AIP. It's hung up now in a split MEC.

If I had the decision to make over again, I'd still come back. Like I said, I didn't learn anything I didn't already know, and experiencing the support for flight operations in the execution of the job reminded me why I left the regionals to take another shot at United.

If anyone is still in the throes of debate regarding return and wants to send me a PM I'll share whatever I can...

no longer W8N

 

[RTB]

Thanks W8N, or maybe EXW8N. By the way, what is the AIP that is hung up at the MEC?

 

[W8N4UAL]

Sean Donohue's last update lays it out...877 WE FLY EM

Good: trip and duty rigs back for the LCO. Line guarantee for everyone.
Bad: Drop floor goes from 50 to 65. No more half time pilots. PBS will build to a min of 75 instead of 65. Also some raising to monthly caps to help cover the summer flying. We have only 30 more pilot on the property now than last summer. Last summer we experienced an unacceptable level of crew cancellations. They're trying to fix that with having everyone fly more.

W8N

 

[Gordo]

Regarding recalls, this was posted on SKYNET sometime in Feb:

We have offered voluntary recall to all 2172 pilots that were furloughed. 873 of those pilots elected to bypass their initial recall opportunity, and we are now contacting those pilots a second time (in reverse seniority order), offering a choice to either return or resign.
Not surprisingly, a substantial majority of the junior-most pilots, who are well into a different career or seniority list by now, are electing to resign. For example, “return or resign” letters have been sent to the 100 junior-most furloughees; of the 73 who have responded to-date, eight are returning, three are transitioning to military leave, and 62 are resigning.
On the flip side, a sizable number of senior pilots on the bypass list are calling off bypass to return this spring, and accordingly our first five recall classes of 2007 have been or are filled. Additionally, senior bypass pilots have already filled 13 positions in the sixth class of the year, to begin on April 9.
Looking forward, we are still on track to recall 300-400 pilots this year. In the event the resignation rate stays high, Flight Ops and Human Resources are beginning to design an updated pilot new-hire program.​

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Say no to the give backs finally we have some leverage. They must hire more pilots.

 

[Powda5]

Did a new award just come out? Wondering if it was possible for someone to check if I was awarded a base? I'm on leave and Skynet Lite doesn't give the info. Tks....

 

[TacoTurbine]

Did a new award just come out? ... was awarded a base?

Yes, and... check your email ;-)

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Latest rumor is hiring 8/2007

 

[Huggyu2]

It took a week for another post after TacoTurbine's! That's a record on this thread, me thinks.
Any updates on how far they've gone on burning through the bypass list?

 

[DB Cooper]

I just heard about a guy in the last class that elected to resign after the first week. Anyone?

 

[hyflyt560]

I just heard about a guy in the last class that elected to resign after the first week. Anyone?

Hopefully he/she was senior enough to make it matter.

 

[Powda5]

There's going to be a recall class May 7th. Don't know of any other new ones...