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Jealous? Dude, you are clinically insane if you believe that.

Jealous of 3 hour sits? Double breasted sub commander jackets? Flying 4 days and only taking home 20 of pay?

I'm glad Delta is doing well. It helps the industry. I had to bail on the stock though, it was sinking like the Sub Commander calling 'full depth'. I'll keep an eye on getting back in when things stabilize. Until then...

Full Steam Ahead Genny!

You have very little understanding of "typical" DL trips. First of all, domestically, there are now very few 3 hour sits. That's on almost every fleet. There are some now and then, but very few now. On the INTL side, there is normally one leg to an INTL destination, a 24 hour layover, and then one leg home. (Next month to Europe there are some 48 hour layovers, and even some 72 hour layovers in Rome) You've left out that side of flying, primarily because you don't have the same. You lack the CHOICE of long haul flying. That's why a guy at DL who is 9957 can hold MD88 Capt, there are thousands that are senior on Widebody planes who LIKE IT, A LOT. That's something you'll never understand, and we know that about you. Oh yeah, you'll say you wouldn't like that, but again you don't have a choice in the matter. You will never fly the plane to Hong Kong. No to Rome, Italy. No to Buenos Aires. And if you didn't like that flying, a domestic seat is just waiting, on several fleets to choose from too. Imagine that...

So, you are jealous. It's very easy to see that. You see a DL A330 in SEA or a DL 744 or 777 in DTW, and you start to feel qweazy, then followed by some flattus. Slider, you stink........ Next....



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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You have very little understanding of "typical" DL trips. First of all, domestically, there are now very few 3 hour sits. That's on almost every fleet. There are some now and then, but very few now. On the INTL side, there is normally one leg to an INTL destination, a 24 hour layover, and then one leg home. (Next month to Europe there are some 48 hour layovers, and even some 72 hour layovers in Rome) You've left out that side of flying, primarily because you don't have the same. You lack the CHOICE of long haul flying. That's why a guy at DL who is 9957 can hold MD88 Capt, there are thousands that are senior on Widebody planes who LIKE IT, A LOT. That's something you'll never understand, and we know that about you. Oh yeah, you'll say you wouldn't like that, but again you don't have a choice in the matter. You will never fly the plane to Hong Kong. No to Rome, Italy. No to Buenos Aires. And if you didn't like that flying, a domestic seat is just waiting, on several fleets to choose from too. Imagine that...

So, you are jealous. It's very easy to see that. You see a DL A330 in SEA or a DL 744 or 777 in DTW, and you start to feel qweazy, then followed by some flattus. Slider, you stink........ Next....



Bye Bye---General Lee


Hey Barry,

You still stirring the pot after getting me slapped into the penalty box?
 
And now my name is....Barry......allllllriiiiiighty then.....



Bye Bye---General Barry Lee
 
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Why not the same? Are these separate fleets?

Yes. Seperate fleets. There is not pay banding (yet anyway) on the narrow body fleet (except same cockpit planes). AA and UA have pay banding on larger chunks of plane types, whereas DL only pays the same on two fleets that are different (777/744 and 330/765 (767-400)).

Notice 12 year Capt rate on the 717 effective Jan 1st is $195 an hour, on the smallest plane in the mainline fleet. That's not bad, and another contract is coming, along with about $4 billion in profits this year, which equates to at least 2 extra months pay, (16% of your W2, or more due to lower oil prices), which partly has been paid out already (5% as of a week ago).

AA currently has no profit sharing, and Parker didn't want to discuss it in the latest negotiations. No wonder, it adds a lot to a pilot's pay. Try adding 2 months extra pay.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Is it really PFT for hotels at Delta?

That is true, after DL pays for the hotel for the first two weeks of Indoc. There is a question in the pilot contract survey dealing with this subject, which means it is on their radar to negotiate to get that changed possibly. If your sim happens to be in a location other than ATL, like in MIA for some 717 sims, then the company picks up the full tab.

While you're at it, please compare first year and second year pay at all 3 legacies. Then add the fact that DL will be getting a new contract adding more money, which is likely in 2015. That all adds up.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 

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