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The 75/76 pays the same...but the sizes are much different.....Sounds like the DC9 drivers are getting treated differently.....
Anyone else find it interesting that under cross examination NWA's side admits that DOH "disadvantages" the Delta pilots and that a ratio is a much more fair integration methodology to start with.
Funny, I can't find where they said any of that. Disadvantages from a day 1 snapshot maybe, but 5 to 10 years down the road, most DAL pilots make out better under the combined DOH model at the new DAL than they would have of DAL stood alone.
Under your POS model all DAL pilots benefit on the backs of NWA pilots. That won't fly.
I guess your model has no disadvantages for NWA pilots, like:
1. losing 5-10% seniority from day one.
2. Losing 10-20 over the next 5-10 years
3. Losing up to 50% over 15 years
but those numbers the NWA guys should just ignore?
You, GL and others just cherry pick your arguments but with no substance behind it. Your arguments make y'all the USAIR of this SLI arbitration.
Q. No other airline has a dynamic
9 seniority list advice, do they?
10 A. Not that I'm aware of.
Facts:I guess your model has no disadvantages for NWA pilots, like:
1. losing 5-10% seniority from day one.
2. Losing 10-20 over the next 5-10 years
3. Losing up to 50% over 15 years
Your arguments make y'all the USAIR of this SLI arbitration.
1. NWA brings smaller aircraft to the table, relative seniority by equipment is our status quo without the merger.
2. According to your witness Delta loses 4% under NWA's plan
3. According to your witness NWA loses 1% under DAL's plan.
According to your witness you lose ~1% of pay with Delta's plan. Delta loses ~5%. Which plan meets ALPA's own goals. This is without consideration for the raises obtained by NWA pilots, bringing NWA to parity in the JPWA.
I will refer you to the testimony of Captain Averill on the 15th of November. I'm not picking our best arguments, or even arguments being made by the Delta side. I'm just evaluating your representatives arguments. I'd love to see their charts, maybe NWA will leak them.
I know my side and am not asking for anything more than status quo.
3,000 Delta pilots stapled? Stapling half the list? Rant Rant & Whine.7 Q. A third of the Delta pilots are
8 stapled on the bottom of the Northwest list;
9 is that correct?
10 A. On the bottom of the Northwest
11 list?
12 Q. Yes, on the bottom of the list, on
13 the bottom of the list. I misspoke. On the
14 bottom of the list.
15 A. Well, there are 3,000 pilots below
16 them.
21 A. The point is that the attrition
22 that we have enjoyed is a function of the
23 ratios that were built at the bottom, based on
24 the jobs that were brought to merger.
25 Q. Does it put a third of the Delta
2 pilots stapled below at the bottom of the
3 list?
4 A. At this point in time, it does.
Facts:
1. NWA brings smaller aircraft to the table, relative seniority by equipment is our status quo without the merger.
2. According to your witness Delta loses 4% under NWA's plan
3. According to your witness NWA loses 1% under DAL's plan.
.I know my side and am not asking for anything more than status quo