Just Shredded The Union Card

[johnsonrod]

What nerve the Union (1108) has sending the CitationShares pilots unsolicited cards in the mail. I just gave mine a quick trip through the shredder. They have gonads the size of elephants. Say NO to the union.

So, the status quo works for you? Can you speak for your other pilots? Do they not deserve better pay, better health care, better work rules than what they currently have?

You sound like you are either CS management or a former scab. Your objectivity is DEAD in the water. After CS management's response to Netjets' TA, the union looks more likely than ever despite your efforts... Change is good.

 

[Guitar Guy]

after conversation with pelton on a netjets airplane to cali, you wont need to fill your cards out at all. we will welcome you with open arms...:beer:

Very interesting. Any chance you can share more of that conversation?

 

[x402]

after conversation with pelton on a netjets airplane to cali, you wont need to fill your cards out at all. we will welcome you with open arms...:beer:

I hope a staple gun is included in that conversation

 

[gunfyter]

Who is pelton?

 

[ProFracPilot]

Who is pelton?

Jack Pelton, Cessna's CEO.

 

[flagshipper]

Funny thing is Bogart that I have talked to at least 12 people, myself included, who have sent their union cards in since we got that email from BS. I will take a 12 to 1 ratio anyday.

 

[Stinkbug]

I hope a staple gun is included in that conversation

Very spiteful thing to say. Not exactly in keeping with the whole concept of "The Brotherhood", and that attitude certainly won't garner support for your side from those who are riding the fence

 

[Stinkbug]

You sound like you are either CS management or a former scab. Your objectivity is DEAD in the water. After CS management's response to Netjets' TA, the union looks more likely than ever despite your efforts... Change is good.

Would 1108 send a card to a management guy? Honest question, I'm not 100% sure how that works

 

[Stinkbug]

after conversation with pelton on a netjets airplane to cali, you wont need to fill your cards out at all. we will welcome you with open arms...:beer:

I find it very hard to believe that the CEO of Cessna would discuss anything like that with a line pilot

 

[pilotyip]

sent one to me

Would 1108 send a card to a management guy? Honest question, I'm not 100% sure how that works

In our last union drive by the UAW, I was sent a card, even though I am management, I do fly the line and was on the seniority list

 

[x402]

Very spiteful thing to say. Not exactly in keeping with the whole concept of "The Brotherhood", and that attitude certainly won't garner support for your side from those who are riding the fence

Not Spiteful at all, it is in response to the earlier post about a possible buyout/merger of CS.
I don't have any info about it, but I'd be hard pressed to accept a non NJI/NJA, non Union group, in any other way than being placed at the bottom of our seniority list.

This is all speculation based on one post and my personal opinion.


PS, I'm not trying to garner any support for "my" side. It's abundantly clear about the mgt/labor relationship. You get what you negotiate for, or you accept what they give you. I like the first idea.

 

[FLYLOW22]

If a company fails, it is usually for a myriad of reasons.


It IS, however, easy to blame one factor of influence (the "Union") on it's failure.

Fill out those cards guys. Good luck!

 

[hydrarkt]

Well, I just know that 1108 has been TERRIBLE for the pilots at NJA and for the company!! I mean, the pilots have to suffer with industry leading pay, specified work rules, full insurance, over 100 bases, great representation, a good LMRP, and more. And the POOR company!! I don't know what they'll possibly do with record profits this year!!! Stupid 1108!!

 

[fischman]

Well, I just know that 1108 has been TERRIBLE for the pilots at NJA and for the company!! I mean, the pilots have to suffer with industry leading pay, specified work rules, full insurance, over 100 bases, great representation, a good LMRP, and more. And the POOR company!! I don't know what they'll possibly do with record profits this year!!! Stupid 1108!!

No kidding!!! Do you have ANY IDEA how much I'm going to have to pay in taxes next year???

 

[RNObased]

What nerve the Union (1108) has sending the CitationShares pilots unsolicited cards in the mail. I just gave mine a quick trip through the shredder. They have gonads the size of elephants. Say NO to the union.

Congrats Bogart,
You just doomed yourself to another several years of sub standard wages and less then ideal working conditions. Or maybe the rumor about Pelton is true. Then I pray to god you pull the gear on my jet, I'm sure we would get along just fine.