Jumpseating and the forward lav....

[kf4amu]

The legal part is that she can tell you to do whatever she wants, and you need to do it.

That's how I view jumpseating and it's given me a 100 percent success rate.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

The legal part is that she can tell you to do whatever she wants, and you need to do it.

That's how I view jumpseating and it's given me a 100 percent success rate.

Bark like a dog!

A big dog!

Hop on one leg.

 

[urflyingme?!]

I think we have found the tool of the day.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I disagree. But, I was in my own cabin, as there was no first class. Not every airline has first class. Of course, I've been invited up to FC to use the lav by the FA's, but that's another story.

Everyone seems to agree that it would be nice to follow the pax rules, but nobody seems to know whether it's the law or not. If I sign up for the JS, and they check me in CASS, it doesn't matter where I'm sitting. What if I ride in the cockpit for the takeoff and then ride in the back for the rest of the flight? Again, I don't think she didn't want me there, she was concerned about the TSA regs. Also, if you are concerned about other passengers following suit, don't you think they see someone in uniform as crew, whether you guys do or not?

I'm just asking about the legality, not the morality, or courtesy aspect of it. That's all, nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks.

You are a toad, the same as all the other toads in the back. The uniform means nothing at your airline, less on someone else's. The reality was she didn't want to watch you stand right in front of her and pick your nose, and then eat the boogers. Legality, "lawful crewmember orders" cuts a broad swath, add "inteference" and there is your answer.

 

[Freebrd]

Great way to get kicked off the flight if FA complains to the Capt/FO. Basically you're in the way up there especially if they're boarding. Take your seat and appreciate the ride.

FA are approved for CASS also btw. And once in the cockpit, if you're riding up there, there's no leaving after TO for a seat in he cabin. If the gate issues you a seat in the back then just board and take your seat to get out of the revenue passengers and FAs way. Most airline policies require an offline pilot to ride in the cabin if a seat is available there.

 

[ERfly]

I think we have found the tool of the day.

Wrong forum. There's only one winner of that here and he's won it multiple, consecutive days.

 

[Flybywire44]

So,
Let's say I'm jumpseating on someone's airline, in uniform, and they have a seat for me in the back. I walk up front to talk to the flight attendant, and she tells me I can't stand there. I replied that I am considered crew, and it's only passengers that cannot stand and wait for the forward lav. I said that if it made her uncomfortable, I would gladly move. So, my question is, who was right?

Now, if you think the FA was right, that's fine. My only question is, why can I ride in the cockpit, but can't stand outside of it? Can I stand outside of it, in the galley area for a few minutes while actually riding in the cockpit? Why or why not? Do flight attendants realize that pilots riding in the back, if CASS checked, are qualified to ride up front in the cockpit? Do they know we are considered additional crewmembers? They seem to know we cannot have alcohol while jumpseating, so doesn't that mean we are crew?

Just curious as to what others think of the situation. Thanks.

Drop the entitlement and just do what the flight attendant(s) say when you're a guest. You may be a crew member, but they still outrank you!

If you really care about this issue than work on your charisma and bring chocolate when you jump seat foo!

 

[kf4amu]

Bark like a dog!

A big dog!

Hop on one leg.

Woof woof!! Hop hop!


Oh look I just made it to my destination for free.

See how easy that was? Haha

 

[waveflyer]

Umm - it might be nice to pile on- but none of you have answered his actual question yet and haven't recognized that he did comply-

I think its a fair question the second way you worded it skydiver- but I don't know the answer-

So let me change the scenario-

What if the FA was a friend or girlfriend- and wanted you up there to chit chat- could you legally? Or would Mr FAA or ms TSA catching a ride have issues with it?

 

[labbats]

When asking for a jumpseat you are a guest. You may still have rights just like you would at another person's home, but being courteous should trump most of them. Go along to get along.

 

[mayoplane]

When you are getting a free ride, you try not to argue about such a minor thing. It doesnt matter what the technicality is. I hope you were jumpseating on ur own people to talk that way to the working crew....

 

[rtmcfi]

Get out of the way and take the hint. She doesn't like you.

 

[sat74]

The trolly dolly needs to shut up and know her place. I would have told her to get back to serving the guests.

Oh wait.. They're there for your safety. Nevermind.

 

[Flybywire44]

Umm - it might be nice to pile on- but none of you have answered his actual question yet and haven't recognized that he did comply-

I think its a fair question the second way you worded it skydiver- but I don't know the answer-

So let me change the scenario-

What if the FA was a friend or girlfriend- and wanted you up there to chit chat- could you legally? Or would Mr FAA or ms TSA catching a ride have issues with it?

My perception is that he may have argued with the flight attendent before complying.

What did I miss?

 

[ron burgundy]

He is a PILOT, in the galley,(spotlight, as far as pax are concerned) and he knows it..everyone needs to know who he is ,, what he does, what he has, how great he is!