Jetblue's Problem

[BeachBummer]

Total bait... and we all ate from the swirling pot.

 

[linepilot]

You know what I do with bait?

I feed it back to the customers and the people I work with. :laugh:

 

[N813CA]

Well I guess more than 50% where happy enough to keep it this way. Why are there so many applicants trying to get a job here???? Must not be a bad place to work....

 

[Fins Up]

Well I guess more than 50% where happy enough to keep it this way. Why are there so many applicants trying to get a job here???? Must not be a bad place to work....

Because they're coming from regionals with lousy pay. Because we're hiring folks with little or no pic time when no other major airline is.

I never thought I'd support bringing in ALPA with all its checkered past, but after seeing how things work here and in the industry, I've realized that we need a CBA. There are no guarantees with ALPA or anything else in life but I feel completely exposed if we ever enter a M/A situation. Don't let the zealots here who ridicule anyone with an opposing opinion turn you off to the idea. You don't have to be "anti-company" to be pro-cba.

 

[Lake Alice]

Well I guess more than 50% where happy enough to keep it this way. Why are there so many applicants trying to get a job here???? Must not be a bad place to work....

Educate yourself. 50% did not want ALPA, that's what the union vote indicated. Todays PVC results show what the pilot group wants. Your kind is now the minority. Besides aside from FedEx other carriers with proper pay, benefits, retirement and disability are not hiring.

As for not a bad place to work it's not. But it's not a career destination. I came here to get some heavy PIC time and then the industry took a dump. For me this was and still is a stepping stone.

 

[shadesofBS]

And now maybe we start getting some factual data in our e-mail instead of propaganda and regurgitated opinions from Forest Hills.

Maybe, just maybe, we can bring a little integrity back to this farce we call a direct relationship.

We STILL will ONLY get what the company was planning to give us in the first place, but at least NOW we might get some straight talk from our so-called pilot representatives.

 

[Otto77]

I'm happy with how the PVC elections turned out. Hopefully this will bring the group more transparency. I'm sure management will still sidetrack improvements, but maybe at least more folks will be educated on the inner workings.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

I'm fairly hopeful, for the first time in years.

The Bobs were trounced by a 3-1 ratio in all 3 silos.

Could be a new wind is finally blowing at JB?

 

[BeachBummer]

Don't confuse a "pro-pilot" PVC with them actually being able to do anything. Best case scenerio we get some straight talk and whatever the comany was gonna give/take anyhow.

I am excited for the new PVC but now we simply have the most student oriented student council ever!! I'm sure they will do their very best to get us less homework and more recess as all the teachers applaud thier very best efforts... Meanwhile the principal goes on with business as usual.

 

[Smarta$$]

When does JB deposit our 5% "profit sharing" into our 401ks? Is it quarterly or annually?

Thanks

 

[aewanabe]

Annually.

 

[Blue Dude]

It ought to be monthly. As it is, the company keeps it for up to 15 months and then it's a crap shoot whether you can buy high or low for that year.

 

[Smarta$$]

Annually.

YUCK! Not good.

 

[Lake Alice]

Factor in compound interest and it gets even worse.

 

[fifty30retard]

Annually.

and in April, 4 months time late.

 

[B6Busdriver]

YUCK! Not good.

Yep. And they used to play games with 401k contributions until they got caught. The feds spanked jb so now they do the right thing. Doing the right thing to Bluejet is following the law.

 

[Smarta$$]

Yep. And they used to play games with 401k contributions until they got caught. The feds spanked jb so now they do the right thing. Doing the right thing to Bluejet is following the law.

I am curious about the details on that one?

 

[Lake Alice]

I'm trying to find the article but Federal law states the employer has to send the 401k plan assets to the plan trustee no later than 15 business days after the end of the month in which the money is deducted. This may seem like a long time, especially if your paycheck comes at the beginning of the month, but you should keep in mind that this is not a "deadline" per se, but an outer limit. The Department of Labor (DOL) regulations that govern 401k plans actually require your employer to put assets destined for the plan into the plan as soon as possible.

Jebtlue was, in many cases, exceeding this outer limit. Add to this Jetblue deposits the money into an STIF which earns interest off your contributions.

I believe the DOL was contacted however I'm not sure if Jebtlue was fined.

 

[B6Busdriver]

I am curious about the details on that one?

The direct relationship at work. Arrogant incompetence at its best.

 

[shadesofBS]

I don't think we've even discussed the original question in this thread:

How do you have a direct relationship when your pilots don't trust you?

Here's my thought:

The pilots who vote against representation and for the DR don't really care about trust or even expect much in the way of "prosperity" (an oldie but a goody) because they're all afraid of their own shadows.