Jetblue's Problem

[skidbuggy]

Why hasn't there been a recruitment ban on the airline? For example, anyone who goes to work there gets blacklisted.

 

[Lake Alice]

Friends of mine who have been there 10, 7 and 5 years don't think so

Friends of mine who have been here 10, 7 and 5 years do think so. All my friends who were furloughed Delta have returned except 1. He is waiting on a class date. Most of my AA buds have gone back. Even 2 furloughed Continental friends are going back and they will do so taking a huge pay cut as their seniority did not accrue.
If you came here from a regional like Mesa, yes this is better. For most other people...stepping stone or temporary stop. Attrition speaks volumes. During periods or hiring SWA, Delta, Continental, United, Alaska, American or even Usair have not lost pilots at the comparative rate we have.
Those are facts.

 

[Lake Alice]

I actually know some of your friends. These pilots send out mass emails defending Jetblues disability policy. YOUR friends claim our disability policy need not change because pilots will have access to Medicare when their Cobra runs out.
Great guys they are.

 

[Lake Alice]

Why hasn't there been a recruitment ban on the airline? For example, anyone who goes to work there gets blacklisted.

The only pilots to be officially black listed have been scabs and we have several from the list working here.

 

[curtaindriver]

Why hasn't there been a recruitment ban on the airline? For example, anyone who goes to work there gets blacklisted.

Please tell me you are joking. First, I've never even heard of this.......and second, anybody on or off property saying things are so bad that this is warranted is showing their absolutely disconnected understanding of this industry.

Look, there a lot of truths people are saying on this site, but there are also things being said by individuals who have never had another airline job...........and they seem to love the role of "all knowledgeable", but they are not.

Point is, this place is far from perfect...........needs a lot of fixing and I believe only a CBA and the ability to negotiate, not collaborate will address these issues. But, there a lot of great things about this airline.......there have been constant improvements and the work environment is very good.


CD

 

[SBD]

Please tell me you are joking. First, I've never even heard of this.......and second, anybody on or off property saying things are so bad that this is warranted is showing their absolutely disconnected understanding of this industry.

Look, there a lot of truths people are saying on this site, but there are also things being said by individuals who have never had another airline job...........and they seem to love the role of "all knowledgeable", but they are not.

Point is, this place is far from perfect...........needs a lot of fixing and I believe only a CBA and the ability to negotiate, not collaborate will address these issues. But, there a lot of great things about this airline.......there have been constant improvements and the work environment is very good.


CD

What he said.

 

[fifty30retard]

What he said.

Work environment not bad? A smiley manager smiling happy smiles at you, and blowing sunshine up your ass, while shoving a ******************** compensation package down your throat does not make for a good work environment.

 

[pilotyip]

Work environment not bad? A smiley manager smiling happy smiles at you, and blowing sunshine up your ass, while shoving a ******************** compensation package down your throat does not make for a good work environment.

Yes suffering along on a pilots average compensation for working 16 days a month will gain great sympathy with the average American.

 

[Lake Alice]

Our pay and benefits aren't compared to average americans so we don't care what they think. We are only compared to our peers.

 

[fifty30retard]

Our pay and benefits aren't compared to average americans so we don't care what they think. We are only compared to our peers.

This. Best post of this flightinfo board.

Jetblue compares your retirement and benefits to Fortune 2000 companies and declares B6 retirement and benefits to be "industry leading". Pilots (JAOC) compare B6 retirement and benefits to other major airline pilots and declare they are for sh!t.

Make your own comparisons and decide for yourselves.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Yes suffering along on a pilots average compensation for working 16 days a month will gain great sympathy with the average American.

Pilots don't negotiate with the average American.

Wall Street criminals have been taking home multi-million "bonuses for performance" even after they drove the economy off the cliff. Public perception has hardly put a damper on that.

 

[pilotyip]

Pilots don't negotiate with the average American.

Sure they do, every time an average American buys an airline tickets, they have negotiated with that airline's employees. When the tickets prices at Airline X are more than at Airline Y, because X pays its employees more, the average American will buy at tickets a Y. Why? because they are negotiating with the airline. They are the ultimate source of all airline income.

 

[BeachBummer]

Yes suffering along on a pilots average compensation for working 16 days a month will gain great sympathy with the average American.

The average American doesn't have my experience knowledge or background either. The average American also doesn't put in 14 Hr + days when they do go to work. The average American isn't directly responsible for 150+ lives and millions if not billions of dollars every time they sit down to work. The majority of average Americans don't even pay taxes.

So I'll take my 16 days off a month if I can get it and not give a rats @$$ what the average American or any other nationality thinks about it.

Merry christmas!

 

[Lake Alice]

Clearly he doesn't understand the definition of the term.

 

[BeachBummer]

Oh I forgot... I'm compensated below average as well.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Sure they do, every time an average American buys an airline tickets, they have negotiated with that airline's employees. When the tickets prices at Airline X are more than at Airline Y, because X pays its employees more, the average American will buy at tickets a Y. Why? because they are negotiating with the airline. They are the ultimate source of all airline income.

You are a CEO's wet dream, you know just enough to be dangerous. When 1/5th of the employee workforce is pilots and the remainder are office pogues and ground staff that determines the overall labor cost in a relative sense. But don't let common sense influence your tater licking...

 

[B6Busdriver]

You are a CEO's wet dream, you know just enough to be dangerous. When 1/5th of the employee workforce is pilots and the remainder are office pogues and ground staff that determines the overall labor cost in a relative sense. But don't let common sense influence your tater licking...

Yep. He's towing the Republican line. It's all so predictable. Don't become part of the sheeple, think for yourself!

 

[fifty30retard]

Yes suffering along on a pilots average compensation for working 16 days a month will gain great sympathy with the average American.

Truly the dumbest pilot in the world, and a perfect hire for jetblue.

 

[pilotyip]

So I'll take my 16 days off a month if I can get it and not give a rats @$$ what the average American or any other nationality thinks about it.

Merry christmas!

I am sure many of them feel the smae way, enjoy, holiday truce over

 

[aircombat]

Sure they do, every time an average American buys an airline tickets, they have negotiated with that airline's employees. When the tickets prices at Airline X are more than at Airline Y, because X pays its employees more, the average American will buy at tickets a Y. Why? because they are negotiating with the airline. They are the ultimate source of all airline income.

How do you fit Southwest into your equation?