Good luck.jetblue320 said:The folks I work for have never given me any reason to think that the QOL and benefits I have now will go away. Not in my lifetime anyway.
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Good luck.jetblue320 said:The folks I work for have never given me any reason to think that the QOL and benefits I have now will go away. Not in my lifetime anyway.
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Every company has a life cycle like a human. Birth through death.jetblue320 said:Hey, I was making a joke. And truth be known, I'll never be off the kool-aid. I do not care where unions were created. I have belonged to them before and that is why I do not belong to them now. That is good for me and that is all that counts. Now before you go off calling me selfish and tell me how my company is going to screw me someday, why do you care if JB has a union anyway? The folks I work for have never given me any reason to think that the QOL and benefits I have now will go away. Not in my lifetime anyway. So please save your salespitch for someone who is buying, I'm not.
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I don't have to ask the Challenge folks Pal, I was one for 12 years. And FYI, CAC was a CBA holding Teamster outfit without one little detail....SCOPE......but the end result was the same.....UPS in, CAC out. Oh, did I mention that the majority of UPS were Teamsters "Brothers". Put that in your union pipe and smoke it.B-atch said:OH, I forgot....Merger and aquisitions..Ask the non-union carrier folks (that are still employed) what seniority they now hold at their new carrier(ex. Challenge Air Cargo, among others) What does JB SCOPE clause say pertaining to this LITTLE subject...Perhaps IGNORANCE is one of the sought after qualities that the JB HR people seek..
If I really thought you meant that I would say thanks. But obviously JB has soured you for some reason so we'll just leave it at that. The way I figure it not everything in life has to depend on luck.FDJ2 said:Good luck.
Right on the money! Anyone who knows the history at FedEx can relate to this. Ask any of the boys how things were in the early years of the company when Freddy Smith would show up in the crew room glad handling and slappin' his boys on the back. I'm sure he asked about sick relatives also. It was all about the PSP thing he preached... "People, Service, Profit". Take care of your people first then the other two will fall in line naturally. Funny thing happened as FedEx grew, PSP changed to PSP! Only now it's Profit, Service, People. Only I think there have been some other steps added between the Service part and the People part but I can't figure out what they are. Bottom line... I've been on the property 5 years now and I have yet to see Freddy in the crew room and he has never asked about any of my sick relatives. I bet a lot of the guys who were around in the early years were thinking everything was rosy and Fred was the greatest CEO of all time and would never put anything above his people, at least it sure seemed that way. As the company grew things changed a lot. As JB grows things will change. It will be interesting to see things in 5 or 6 years. Oh, by the way, I think Freddy was just voted CEO of the century or something like that.FLYLOW22 said:Every company has a life cycle like a human. Birth through death.
When the strain of daily ops persuades management to take advantage of employees they push back and Unionize.
It will happen someday even at JetBlue Airways. Maybe not soon but when the competition figures out how to really give you all a run for your money... and they will... someone will.
It takes a while to play out... but it happens time and time again.
Print this message and mark my words.
Dizel... please don't group me with the ones you say are wishing for relations to sour, etc. I sincerely hope that JB keeps doing the right things and continues to be a great place to work. I have some good friends at JB and they love it there and I love it for them. I only bring up the FedEx thing as one example that historically things do change as companies grow.Dizel8 said:Now, being all sensitive and such, it must be asked, why all you pessimist seem to be sadddened by the current state of affairs at jetblue. It if was because you were all looking out for us, that would be commendable, but it strikes me more as "misery loves company". That some of you are wishing for relations to sour, bad things to happen and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why?
I am a realist, I have been around, as has most people at jetblue. If things change, we would have to evaluate our options, but until then, I will continue to be happy, working for a company that values its employees.
Almost, but you missed a little. It was effectively a gun held to our heads by AA. We were told to give up successorship rights or they'll have the judge abrogate our whole contract, promises of fairness notwithstanding. (A bankrupcty judge couldn't care less about the integration.) It was bully tactics and ALPA National "advised" us to go along with it. Methinks it would've been very interesting if our MEC hadn't followed National's "advice".FDJ2 said:The TWA pilots voted away their own PWA protections on the promise that the APA would be fair. This was done in order to facilitate their acquisition by AA.
Huh? I must be missing something here. Is the fact, that we have jetblue pilots working with management a bad thing? Or is it that it looks like representation, which is a bad thing? I am confused!sandman2122 said:BYT, a good friend of mine who's a JB captain told me "we have some guys working with management trying to hammer out pay rates and details associated with the future hiring /flying of the new RJ's". sounded like representation at it's worst to me......good luck.