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You're right dude. All the TP guys know it. Some people try to justify a jet aircrafts superiority because they are trying to justify the low pay, benefits and work rules that they accept to be able to say they "fly a jet".

That being said, I would not count my Dash 8 time as jet...and proudly.
 
So here is a funny quirk of timing. I am reading Blue Streak, and it just so happens that tonight I get to the part that reads: "...and adding the "jet" would get across the notion that this wasn't some puddle-jumping turboprop operator." Fantastic timing there.
 
bri5150 said:
Either way, this is an age old argument that nobody can win. I hope to get the call and they judge me based on my personality, command ability, customer service, and flying skills; not whether or not a turbo-prop and turbo-jet are the same type of engine.
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^^^THIS^^^ and you will.


If you have been flying... airplanes... as a job... you should know how to answer these questoins. You know what they mean when they say prop or jet.

Here is the kicker guys once you get the interview, you have been hired. You walk in there and lie, sound like a ****************************** or cant tell the difference between a jet and a prop you get to go home. Please don't go to the interview and try to argue that the saab is a jet (wether it has a sticker or not). We all know it burns jet-A,B, diesel, kerosine, modified vegetable oil ect...

GOODLUCK DUDES!
 
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Why not just call and ask. Our People Department(HR) is full of great people who would have no issue with answering this question.

We have hired plenty of people with only turbo-prop time.
 
GEORGE DUBYA said:
I have 4000 PIC in ultra lights. I have a hand held Gps rigged on my yoke so I put down glass time.
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Speaking of ultralights, in Brazil they're required to be registered and the prefix for them is PU-. And yes, there is one registered PU-SSY.
 
RiddleEagle18 said:
Why not just call and ask. Our People Department(HR) is full of great people who would have no issue with answering this question.

We have hired plenty of people with only turbo-prop time.
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I just called the corporate headquarters and they won't let me past the receptionist. They said HR won't take calls about pilot applications during the application process. I explained the situation and they still would not let me through. It's understandable, but I was hoping to get an answer to this question. Oh well.
 
bri5150 said:
I just called the corporate headquarters and they won't let me past the receptionist. They said HR won't take calls about pilot applications during the application process. I explained the situation and they still would not let me through. It's understandable, but I was hoping to get an answer to this question. Oh well.
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From the drop down portion of the application:

-Total hours flown as Pilot In Command (PIC) in any kind of airplane (*a)

-Total hours flown as Pilot In Command (PIC) in jet-powered airplanes (*a)

-Total hours flown in turbine-powered airplanes (includes turbo-prop and/or turbo-jet)

These choices are directly from the application. Jet and turbine powered airplanes are two distinctly different things as written above.

Your Saab time is turbine PIC but does not fit their "jet-powered" definition as used in the application. "Turbine" does not always equal "jet", even if the company sticker on your flight bag says so. Helicopters and some windmills have turbine engines too....it doesn't make them jet powered. Just sayin'

Saying that, your Saab time (PIC) is still just as important and valuable as any "jet" PIC time. However it clearly does not fit the definition set forth in the "Pilots Only" section of the jetBlue employment application.
 
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I understand everyone's point. I thought the spirit of the question was asking if I had 1,000 hours turbine PIC. If I were to check "none" for that box then I may have been automatically disqualified dispite having having the PIC time in a turbine aircraft. I hope I am not disqualified the other way, but I guess we may never find out. And now I just realized they didn't even require PIC time so I can only hope they don't have a problem with it. Either way, if I get the call for an interview, I am comfortable stating why I checked it and I am sure they will be fine with my answer.
 
Is this guy really trying to explain how his Saab is a jet aircraft??


Please proceed with that rationale, maybe one less in the competition column! It's a turbine airplane, there's a column for that. It is not a jet aircraft.Wow........



However small the difference, there is in fact a difference between having jet experience and only TP experience. There is a reason they want to know how much jet time one has. There is a learning curve
 
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BentOver said:
Is this guy really trying to explain how his Saab is a jet aircraft??


Please proceed with that rationale, maybe one less in the competition column! It's a turbine airplane, there's a column for that. It is not a jet aircraft.Wow........



However small the difference, there is in fact a difference between having jet experience and only TP experience. There is a reason they want to know how much jet time one has. There is a learning curve
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Look, I am sorry I misenterpreted the spirit of the question (according to FI.com). It asked for "jet-powered" aircraft and there is a sticker right on the engine that says "jet power". My knowledge of aicraft engines tell me that the engines are basically the same as a turbo-fan, but as stated before there is the high altitude stuff that I don't have experience with on a Saab.

If someone came up to me and asked if I flew a jet, I would obviously say no. I just thought the spirit of the question on the application was different than others opionion's here. I guess I won't get a call for an interview and I am not good enough to get a job at jetBlue right now. Maybe next time. I am the first to admit when I make a mistake, and I made a mistake.
 
bri5150 said:
Look, I am sorry I misenterpreted the spirit of the question (according to FI.com). It asked for "jet-powered" aircraft and there is a sticker right on the engine that says "jet power". My knowledge of aicraft engines tell me that the engines are basically the same as a turbo-fan, but as stated before there is the high altitude stuff that I don't have experience with on a Saab.

If someone came up to me and asked if I flew a jet, I would obviously say no. I just thought the spirit of the question on the application was different than others opionion's here. I guess I won't get a call for an interview and I am not good enough to get a job at jetBlue right now. Maybe next time. I am the first to admit when I make a mistake, and I made a mistake.
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I'm not sure that you made a mistake. I doubt very much that JB will give you a hard time in the interview. Your chances are as good as any.

Don't listen to the "experts" on here. Some of the attitudes like bentover's will hopefully be weeded out in an interview.

Goodluck
 
Smarta$$ said:
I'm not sure that you made a mistake. I doubt very much that JB will give you a hard time in the interview. Your chances are as good as any.

Don't listen to the "experts" on here. Some of the attitudes like bentover's will hopefully be weeded out in an interview.

Goodluck
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I appreciate that. Thank you.
 
ok guys explain this one for me.... I looked at my "profile overview" on the website where it listed the previous times you have applied. (for me it was 12/10 and 09/11).... and then out to the right it would say "under consideration"...... I checked it today and the it still shows the apps but instead of under consideration, it is just blank...under consideration is gone. does that mean anything??? have I been rejected???
 
Calls have started to go out. Relax... breathe, cool your turbo there snake. Unless you have something "bad" in your past (you know if it's bad) your not rejected... yet! You may be in the call pile now.

Good Luck man
 
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Turbosnake03 said:
ok guys explain this one for me.... I looked at my "profile overview" on the website where it listed the previous times you have applied. (for me it was 12/10 and 09/11).... and then out to the right it would say "under consideration"...... I checked it today and the it still shows the apps but instead of under consideration, it is just blank...under consideration is gone. does that mean anything??? have I been rejected???
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I don't think mine's ever even said "under consideration". I was probably rejected out of hand. Oh well, not the first time (just since noon today), and I'm sure not the last.
 
Turbosnake03 said:
ok guys explain this one for me.... I looked at my "profile overview" on the website where it listed the previous times you have applied. (for me it was 12/10 and 09/11).... and then out to the right it would say "under consideration"...... I checked it today and the it still shows the apps but instead of under consideration, it is just blank...under consideration is gone. does that mean anything??? have I been rejected???
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Mine doesn't say anything either. :-(
 

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