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[pilotyip]

Those are pay hours

They get straight pay for up to 70 hours per month, you get time and a half over 70, so if you fly 90 hours a month you get paid 100 hours of pay, plus incentives for picking up open time and other hourly incentives, you can get paid for well over 100 hours flight pay per month. I interviewed there back in 2002, and was given a run down at that time, but I may not have it exactly right since it was a while ago.

 

[GogglesPisano]

What's a realistic upgrade time in the Airbus for someone hired tomorrow?

While we're at it, I assume JFK is a junior domicile, compared to FLL and Long Beach. Yes?

 

[jetblue320]

I think I qualify as "anyone"

Since I am still waiting for A320 to justify his numbers, don't hold your breath for a response.

G4G5, Don't hold your breath too long, it's not good for you.

Although I probably shouldn't do this, (post my numbers on line) I did kinda commit so here goes:

August 2004

70 hours @ 132.76 = 9293.20 (Guarantee)
35 hours @ 199.14 = 6969.90 (Overtime)
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Gross (month) 16263.10 X 12 =
Gross (annual) 195157.20
PTO (annual) 14338.08 (figured at $132.76 hr. for 108 annual hours)
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$209495.28 annually

Ok, there you have it. Now, twist it anyway you want. I did not include Per Diem (average $300-400 a month) because that really isn't compensation in my book, just beer money. If one averages 35 hours of overtime a month, which isn't really hard to do if you apply yourself, you can do pretty well. You are thinking, what kind of quality of life can a pilot have flying 105 hours a month? Let me break that down for you a bit. In August, my original schedule was for 12 days on, 18 days off @89.5 hours of block. I picked up a couple of trips worth 23 hours and picked up a few minutes here and there for weather delays, ground holds (after block out) etc. leaving my monthly total credit time at 105. I ended up working 16 days altogether. Now, if that is what you call "sweating" well, then so be it. I can count on one hand how many months I have had at JB under 100 credit hours. Therefore I would not consider my example month above "atypical" for ME.

I will concede that this is based on my seniority and not every pilot at JB can do this. And also, my rate is including a 10% override. So, maybe a mid range seniority guy might have to work a bit harder at it and a junior guy, forget it unless he is just a down right QOL less whore.

Ok, well I have hopefully cleared this up so maybe we can put it to rest. If you want to debate numbers further, sorry, I'm out. And, I am sorry that I ever started it, FWIW.

Back to humble mode for me. And besides, it's Sunday and I really do have a life, and a wonderful one at that believe it or not!

C yaaa

 

[G4G5]

Negative Good Buddy, fifth year for me. And, on an average, 2nd and 3rd year Captains make north of $160, no sweating.

Just the facts Man......don't believe it if you don't wanna............


C yaaa

This is what bothered me. Here you are telling someone to stick with the "Facts".
Please explain how a 2ND year pilot can make north of $160K with No sweating?

What are current up grade times?

While I appreciate your numbers and I am glad to see you are doing well. Let's be realistic. How many JetBlue pilots are in you position? 1-2%, you tell us? How many new hires can expect to see similar wages?

 

[jetblue320]

This is what bothered me. Here you are telling someone to stick with the "Facts".
Please explain how a 2ND year pilot can make north of $160K with No sweating?

What are current up grade times?

While I appreciate your numbers and I am glad to see you are doing well. Let's be realistic. How many JetBlue pilots are in you position? 1-2%, you tell us? How many new hires can expect to see similar wages?

Ok, well, maybe I should've been more specific. The "facts" I was refering to was my numbers. The $160k part was a general statement.

I don't want to go any further with this even though I started it but I will answer "some" of your questions. I would guess maybe 10% of us are in this range and yes, a second year pilot would give up some QOL. New hires, are of course FO's and it is impossible, of course.

The current upgrade time is about 20-24 months, I think.

Maybe I should just play it safe from now on and be more vague.

Anyway, I am not being very good at being "out" of this, am I?

Going to the sandbar, see ya around.

 

[G4G5]

Don't worry about it, I was not trying to hold your feet to the fire. As a B6 check airman, I am under the impression that many folks on this board look to you for information. All I was trying to do was correct some bad info(sometimes my response are not as smooth as my landings, LOL). The wife just got back from food shopping, off to the beach with the family. Cya.

105 hours a month, more power to you, that's not for me. May I suggest you spend a few more days at the beach

 

[jetblue320]

Don't worry about it, I was not trying to hold your feet to the fire. As a B6 check airman, I am under the impression that many folks on this board look to you for information. All I was trying to do was correct some bad info(sometimes my response are not as smooth as my landings, LOL). The wife just got back from food shopping, off to the beach with the family. Cya.

105 hours a month, more power to you, that's not for me. May I suggest you spend a few more days at the beach

Fair enough. I get my fair share of the beach since I live there but thanks for the suggestion. You see, I am on a mission so I can spend ALL of my days at the beach in a few years.

Have a good one!!

 

[Blue Dude]

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