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I agree, it was quick and we didn't even get the usual "to spend more time with the family or to pursue other options!"
 
TWA received a 52% staple. The subsequent furloughs were in relation to 9-11. The Jetblue PEA states, and references M/B-A/M, that a majority will not be added to the bottom of another list. So while many complain about the TWA/AA merger without knowing the actual percentages the Jetblue PEA does very little to protect you any more.

The Jetblue pilots voted for this level, or lack of, protection.

It was actually closer to 56%, but then they also ratioed the rest from the BOTTOM up. Of those who were ratioed in, only about 30% are still on the property, so that was basically a no-cost item to the APA. You can try to spin it any way you want, but the AA/TWA integration remains the most lopsided and inequitable in the history of this industry.
 
Maybe this has to do with the impending 3A ruling? The requisite ELT departure would be necessary if it's ruled in the pilots' favor, and after news gets out to shareholders that it's going to cost the company 50+ million dollars.
 
Guys like you, and statements like the above, scared a good percentage of the no voters. Fatalistic B.S. thrown in with a know it all/everyone else is stupid or feeble kind of attitude makes you sound emotional and not worthy of listening to. Stop calling people stupid, maybe they thought you and the other over emotional "change everything types" weren't worthy enough to listen to. Management out classed us with the non union literature and comments like yours drove people right in to thier hands. You're fighting yourself and you don't realize it. So in the future shut the ##ck up and let guys logically run a union drive who don't emotionally attack everything.


"Stupid is as Stupid does" !!!!

The 1193 pilots who voted NO to ALPA in Jul/Aug will be eating thier words/votes and kicking themselves in the @ss if AA/JBLU merge (cause it won't be good for the JetBlue pilots). Having ALPA/any union as our rep would be better than letting JetBlue management represent the pilot in a SLI integration or McCaskill/Bond arbitration.

Again,

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!!!

Just my opinion......

FNG
 
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Three-way with USAir.

Discuss.


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You can try to spin it any way you want, but the AA/TWA integration remains the most lopsided and inequitable in the history of this industry.

It was bad. Very bad. But FAL and UAL back in the day was worse and it was ALPA to ALPA. That's way back and doesn't diminish what happened to TWA. I'm just making a point. On a positive note: JB pilots should examine what the New York Air pilots were able to accomplish with Lorenzo and CAL. NYA had no union. They lawyered up with the best counsel possible and the SLI they accomplished was incredible.

I don't know if this happens today or not, but one day JB will have to probably deal with it.
 

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