JB and AA to be announced on Wednesday.

[$$$4nothin]

Careful what you wish for... AMR doesnt play nice

No they don't.

They also have 6500 guys retireing over the next 10-15 years and have an order for how many airplanes. This would tip the NY and BOS markets back in AA's direction vs. the Delta direction. Not to mention AA would get the carribean back. Market share, cash, aircraft, experienced pilots with a lot of time left to work.

Just another internet rumor with a timely retirement thrown in the mix here guys.

Oh ya. The JB pilot group might be in a bit of trouble in a merger. Some more than others, but yes, maybe in a bit of trouble.

 

[DonVersteed]

No, there isn't any way any kind of merger/integration will turn out well for us, regardless of who it is with. That is part of the danger of having management write our integration language and management being our negotiating entity, but that is what 1193 pilots thought were just peachy!

But, back to the original statement, I have no problem with AMR buying us and whatever happens, happens!

Guys like you, and statements like the above, scared a good percentage of the no voters. Fatalistic B.S. thrown in with a know it all/everyone else is stupid or feeble kind of attitude makes you sound emotional and not worthy of listening to. Stop calling people stupid, maybe they thought you and the other over emotional "change everything types" weren't worthy enough to listen to. Management out classed us with the non union literature and comments like yours drove people right in to thier hands. You're fighting yourself and you don't realize it. So in the future shut the ##ck up and let guys logically run a union drive who don't emotionally attack everything.

 

[OurMoney1]

Let's be realistic guys...

Flightinfo posts and mergers equate to nothing, zip, elephant turds.

Your CFO probably got in a pissing match with the BOD or CEO over earnings and or book keeping ethics. Worse yet he may have been doing something illegal. Sounds like it was a bad departure based on the press release. Something bad most likely but nothing industry shattering.

Keep everything in perspective and dont get nutty.

 

[Dizel8]

Guys like you, and statements like the above, scared a good percentage of the no voters. Fatalistic B.S. thrown in with a know it all/everyone else is stupid or feeble kind of attitude makes you sound emotional and not worthy of listening to. Stop calling people stupid, maybe they thought you and the other over emotional "change everything types" weren't worthy enough to listen to. Management out classed us with the non union literature and comments like yours drove people right in to thier hands. You're fighting yourself and you don't realize it. So in the future shut the ##ck up and let guys logically run a union drive who don't emotionally attack everything.

I am sorry, I don't think I was emotional at all, as a matter of fact, why don't you point out what part is untrue in my statement. One could actually argue, that all the ill thought out logic and irrational emotion was coming from the anti CBA contingent. "The only thing ALPA can guarantee is a 2% paycut. They will take away FliCa and the Kew Shuttle. Our retirement is only 3% behind!" Nope, that wasn't illogical at all.

So, let's try this again? Without a CBA, who is our bargaining agent, who wrote the merger language, who will enforce an integration?

As for your last sentence, I'll be nice and chalk it up to stress or adult beverages!

 

[General Lee]

No they don't.

They also have 6500 guys retireing over the next 10-15 years and have an order for how many airplanes. This would tip the NY and BOS markets back in AA's direction vs. the Delta direction. Not to mention AA would get the carribean back. Market share, cash, aircraft, experienced pilots with a lot of time left to work.

Just another internet rumor with a timely retirement thrown in the mix here guys.

Oh ya. The JB pilot group might be in a bit of trouble in a merger. Some more than others, but yes, maybe in a bit of trouble.

Tip NYC in AA's direction? Ummmmm, maybe not. DL has 50% of LGA now, and JB doesn't have that many LGA slots. AA would gain a lot at JFK, but what would happen to AA's large new terminal at JFK? It isn't even close to the JB terminal. Would they sell that one?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[$$$4nothin]

Tip NYC in AA's direction? Ummmmm, maybe not. DL has 50% of LGA now, and JB doesn't have that many LGA slots. AA would gain a lot at JFK, but what would happen to AA's large new terminal at JFK? It isn't even close to the JB terminal. Would they sell that one?


Bye Bye---General Lee

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No clue man. Delta makes Pax walk from terminal 1 to the MAT in LGA. Seems to work out for them. Yes I was reffering more so to the market share in JFK, but it wouldn't hurt AA's market share in LGA. Every little bit helps.

 

[Flyby1206]

You have no Idea what you are wishing for, there is no way that it could turn out well for you guys

Yea, the last AA merger resulted in decade long furloughs... hmm

 

[$$$4nothin]

Yea, the last AA merger resulted in decade long furloughs... hmm

This is very true, but the pilot need at AA is a bit different now. Don't worry man this is just another FI rumor with a very timely retirement thrown in the mix.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

This wasnt a retirement. There is more to this. They usually throw in a resigning to spend more time with family or something like that. This was an unexpected/sudden move. Wether it has to do with AA or not is a different story.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

The chatter is rather interesting to say the least