It's Official: USAirways Wants American

[Flybywire44]

The NIC and DOH are the extremes and would be too toxic to be part of a new TA. The old TA at USAir was never finished and is over five years old...

The new TA will address the here and now, which is three pilot contract groups, three FA contract groups, and two contract groups with most everyone else. Count on it, none of the negotiators are going to be looking to shove an issue to one extreme or the other. A fast ball right down the middle is the quickest way to all the payouts.

So the basis is that Nic goes into effect when East/West get an agreement that they will never reach because now a new agreement will take place?

 

[Dan Roman]

The NIC and DOH are the extremes and would be too toxic to be part of a new TA. The old TA at USAir was never finished and is over five years old...

The new TA will address the here and now, which is three pilot contract groups, three FA contract groups, and two contract groups with most everyone else. Count on it, none of the negotiators are going to be looking to shove an issue to one extreme or the other. A fast ball right down the middle is the quickest way to all the payouts.

It seems to me that there is no agreed TA coming out of USAir? So......it's a pretty safe assumption that someone else would have to decide. In this case it would be going through a judge, in other words, the Nic award would be used.
Of course on the other hand, perhaps Parker is counting on the SLI issue continuing to be dragged through the courts and "his" American Airlines would continue to have payscales at the very bottom of the industry for years to come. Keeping USAPA active in the process certainly does more to keep pilot labor costs low than anything he could do.

 

[Turtle21]

So the basis is that Nic goes into effect when East/West get an agreement that they will never reach because now a new agreement will take place?

The 9th was very clear that there are many contingencies before a contract is ratified. The AA wrinkle just proves how prescient the 9th is. USAir now wants to merge three contract groups. Who knows what their proposal will be.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

I can't wait for my new shiny CRJ 900/1000... I am so happy to be a career RJ CA.

The merger will happen. Scope will be busted wide open, they will furlough thus no pilot shortage once again..

Thank you guys...

Sigh......

 

[vetrider]

The 9th was very clear that there are many contingencies before a contract is ratified. The AA wrinkle just proves how prescient the 9th is. USAir now wants to merge three contract groups. Who knows what their proposal will be.

What if the APA and/or Parker doesn't want to take on the potential liability? Then where are the east pilots? Who do they then sue? What would their odds of making it even past dismissal be?

Welcome to the onus being on you, easties. No more 2% wrecking ball(usapa) for you.

 

[joevollers]

The NIC and DOH are the extremes and would be too toxic to be part of a new TA. The old TA at USAir was never finished and is over five years old...

The new TA will address the here and now, which is three pilot contract groups, three FA contract groups, and two contract groups with most everyone else. Count on it, none of the negotiators are going to be looking to shove an issue to one extreme or the other. A fast ball right down the middle is the quickest way to all the payouts.

That's hysterical. The Nic is only extreme if you compare it to no other SLI's in history. Then it's extreme. Reaction to the Nic... Now that's extreme!

 

[Turtle21]

I can't wait for my new shiny CRJ 900/1000... I am so happy to be a career RJ CA.

The merger will happen. Scope will be busted wide open, they will furlough thus no pilot shortage once again..

Thank you guys...

Sigh......

Scope... The 777 will be available for bid to you within five years, but you won't be getting a pay raise, because ALPA screwed everyone when they refused to establish a national seniority list. They are the most expensive figment in our aviation nightmare.

 

[Turtle21]

That's hysterical. The Nic is only extreme if you compare it to no other SLI's in history. Then it's extreme. Reaction to the Nic... Now that's extreme!

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. That's science.

 

[vetrider]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. That's science.

The only reason anyone heard the foot stomping was you outnumbered us, and the nmb ruled one bargaining unit. It looks like that may end soon. I'm not saying it will be pretty for the west, but usapa is looking pretty impotent, as if it wasn't already lol.

 

[Turtle21]

What if the APA and/or Parker doesn't want to take on the potential liability? Then where are the east pilots? Who do they then sue? What would their odds of making it even past dismissal be?

Welcome to the onus being on you, easties. No more 2% wrecking ball(usapa) for you.

What if.. what if... What if US offers APA forever fences on their wide bodies in exchange for DOH all the way to the bottom of their furlough list, and offers they will indemnify themselves in exchange for the East scope to be the same as West scope.