Its official. Skywest to fly for American...

[Russ]

GL
You sure prognosticate a lot on issues outside of your company that to my knowledge you haven't anything other than public knowledge of. Yet, to something as obvious as the Delta bankruptcy of a few years ago you swore up and down to me I was wrong when I suggested it might happen (based on public knowledge). What gives?

 

[www.]

You should stick to ONE username on here.

Hopefully you got em all before they started charging, more "cost competitive" that way.

Keep grasping junior. Your way out of your league.

 

[wms]

I'm just curious how long it will take for crew scheduling and maintenance to mess this flying agreement up. Clearly, whomever did the legwork with this at AA didn't do a bit of research. Isn't the flying we B@stardized in IAD enough of an example of just how inept and uncapable we truly are?

There will be no spares and min reserves at dfw. Our cancellations will be covered by Eagle,which with our history may result in a gain of flying for them in the end. (-;

 

[General Lee]

GL
You sure prognosticate a lot on issues outside of your company that to my knowledge you haven't anything other than public knowledge of. Yet, to something as obvious as the Delta bankruptcy of a few years ago you swore up and down to me I was wrong when I suggested it might happen (based on public knowledge). What gives?

Russ,

Your knowledge of pending BK could have made you some cash on Wall St. Btw, did you have any idea 9-11 was going to happen? If so, you should have said something to somebody!


It was easy to prognosticate the fall of the 50 seater, just watching gas prices. This last DL contract allows more 76 seaters, but really hammers the 50 seaters and total RJ numbers at DCI, with 149 more leaving than coming in, which economically is good for the company and makes passengers happier. Throw in 88 717s to take back many of the regional routes that were given to DCI after 9-11 by other management and the BK process, and it is even more sweet. Other majors will see that 50 seaters just can't compete when high oil exists, and that may be troubling to regionals who mainly have 50 seaters in their inventory. Low cost regionals (like Gojets and Republic) will then fight hard to capture any additional flying available, again adding to the cost savings for the Legacies.

You see, after 9-11 the regionals really had the legacies over the barrel with their better balance sheets and leverage for feed during the BKs. As the legacies have gotten stronger, a lot due to new fees like bag fees, the regionals have gotten weaker and needed their own consolidation to try to keep contracts. This will continue, and new rest/fatigue rules, hiring minimums, and legacy hiring will probably put a lot of pressure on those large regionals. Even legacies are returning to cities like Roanoke, Wilmington, Fayatteville, Chatanooga, Ashville, which passengers are enjoying very much.

As far as knowing things at your company, I've got friends at a lot of companies, and follow the news and boards. But guessing 50 seaters would go away enmasse was not that hard to guess. Even Mike Boyd guessed that. They don't work well with high gas, period.

So Russ, are you and Jon Rivoli going to apply to the Majors when huge hiring commences? Or, are you two lifers?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[nimtz]

You're not a lifer.....okay... Anyway, at least you agree that there won't be the same amount as before (my whole point, thanks). And high gas will still park those E135s eventually, or UAL scope probably will. Good luck to you!


Bye Bye---General Lee

UAL scope? Yeah that's gonna kick him out of that 37 seater. Too bad he will slide right into a 76+ seat RJ. Nice vote Admiral!

 

[General Lee]

UAL scope? Yeah that's gonna kick him out of that 37 seater. Too bad he will slide right into a 76+ seat RJ. Nice vote Admiral!

Hi genius. We added 70 76 seaters after dumping more than 220 50 seaters in this agreement, with a net loss of 149 50 seaters. That means a heck of a lot FEWER RJs. Then, to top it off, we will add atleast 88 717s to fly the current routes of 76 seaters, while they are bumped down to fly current 70 and 50 seat routes, trying to squeeze a profit on those routes. You guys at UAL have a similar offer, except no 717 carrot. DAL pilots are recapturing routes. You guys? We'll see...... Good luck with that....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[nimtz]

Hi genius. We added 70 76 seaters after dumping more than 220 50 seaters in this agreement, with a net loss of 149 50 seaters. That means a heck of a lot FEWER RJs. Then, to top it off, we will add atleast 88 717s to fly the current routes of 76 seaters, while they are bumped down to fly current 70 and 50 seat routes, trying to squeeze a profit on those routes. You guys at UAL have a similar offer, except no 717 carrot. DAL pilots are recapturing routes. You guys? We'll see...... Good luck with that....


Bye Bye---General Lee

So you call the 717 a 'carrot'!?! Well that proves even you know you sold out. Again thanks for falling hook line and sinker for Grand Admiral Moak's vision you hypocrite.

 

[flyboyike]

So Russ, are you and Jon Rivoli going to apply to the Majors when huge hiring commences?

What huge hiring? The one that yip's been forecasting since the Roosevelt administration?

 

[Golden Falcon]

American Eagle Express Commuter

 

[Golden Falcon]

Hi genius. We added 70 76 seaters after dumping more than 220 50 seaters in this agreement, with a net loss of 149 50 seaters. That means a heck of a lot FEWER RJs. Then, to top it off, we will add atleast 88 717s to fly the current routes of 76 seaters, while they are bumped down to fly current 70 and 50 seat routes, trying to squeeze a profit on those routes. You guys at UAL have a similar offer, except no 717 carrot. DAL pilots are recapturing routes. You guys? We'll see...... Good luck with that....


Bye Bye---General Lee

United not getting recycled ValuJet rejects?? Hmmm sure their hearts are broken over that!!

 

[Freebrd]

JennyLeigh doesn't realize there isn't going to be "huge hiring" at the majors because of sellouts like Jenny giving up more large RJs while 50s are just deployed elsewhere. And this clown is 51 and still a FO? Whatya afeared of Jenny, Capt slot ain't that scary. PUTZ!

 

[Clutch]

You're such a moron

 

[Freebrd]

and your're such a putz, cheering for PNCL to go away, loser, and stickin up for Jenny!

 

[General Lee]

United not getting recycled ValuJet rejects?? Hmmm sure their hearts are broken over that!!

Still having fun in Bahrain? Your airline is a big #4 in the ME and shrinking. Have a great one!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

What huge hiring? The one that yip's been forecasting since the Roosevelt administration?

Age 65 didn't affect it, right? Eventually it will happen, and you most likely won't be a part of it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

So you call the 717 a 'carrot'!?! Well that proves even you know you sold out. Again thanks for falling hook line and sinker for Grand Admiral Moak's vision you hypocrite.

This from a guy still on 9-11 wages, with no chance of recapturing any lost flying. Without a 100 seater, you got NOTHING, along with your discontent with management, and you haven't even done your SLI yet. Wow, you got a LONG way to go. Oh well. And you will sell out for a lot less.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Nevets]

The reimbursement is for a set rate per city pair; If we burn more, we eat it. If we burn less, we pocket the difference. That is how, perversely, the more expensive fuel gets, the more we make, especially four years ago (rates have been adjusted). Through our fuel conservation program we were consistently burning less than the contract fuel quantities and were making huge bank. This caused RA at Delta to have an aneurysm as Delta was losing money at the time and he has been at war with DCI ever since.

Is that how the DAL CPAs work? Thats a whole lot different from the CAL and even the UAL CPAs work. They just simply reimburse all the fuel and have a monetary incentive for year over year savings.

 

[flyboyike]

Age 65 didn't affect it, right? Eventually it will happen, and you most likely won't be a part of it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Hard to be a part of something that's not real.

 

[General Lee]

Hard to be a part of something that's not real.

Yeah, nobody will ever retire. That must be what will keep you at your regional, forever.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[flyboyike]

Yeah, nobody will ever retire. That must be what will keep you at your regional, forever.


Bye Bye---General Lee

They sure don't seem to be in any great hurry to retire. Besides, who says the retirees will be replaced one-for-one?

Oh, and I'm about to start at my second regional.