Its official. Skywest to fly for American...

[General Lee]

That's funny, because UNICAL needed to the parked 37 seaters to come out of the desert to provide additional lift not too long ago.



You think wrong, and your knowledge of the current agreements is lacking.

Are there a lot of 37 seater E135s flying at Unical? Probably not, if so they are temporary fillers. They were going to cover Colgan Dash-8-400 flying, but Republic came in and saved the day. Have you been to Kingman, AZ and seen all of those ex COEX E135s? Go take a field trip you moron. The 50s and everything smaller will dwindle as long as gas prices are high, and that doesn't bode well for the regionals. Luckily, the legacies will be hiring. LCCs like SWA will stagnate. I can see why you are hoping I am wrong, but look around you. DL will dump well over 200. We then will wait for UAL, and more from AA. Mesa dumped a huge amount in PHX. All of CHQ's E135s are gone, and they will lose more E145s. It's high gas prices and old planes needing big mx checks. Throw in new rest/fatigue rules and higher hiring minimums, and it's gonna get interesting.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Whydoitry]

Yes the E135s are still flying. You should check your facts before calling other people morons.

 

[BHopper88]

Are the 37 seaters flying now at Unical? They were going to cover Colgan Dash-8-400 flying, but Republic came in and saved the day. Have you been to Kingman, AZ and seen all of those ex COEX E135s? Go take a field trip you moron. The 50s and everything smaller will dwindle as long as gas prices are high, and that doesn't bode well for the regionals. Luckily, the legacies will be hiring. LCCs like SWA will stagnate. I can see why you are hoping I am wrong, but look around you. DL will dump well over 200. We then will wait for UAL, and more from AA. Mesa dumped a huge amount in PHX. All of CHQ's E135s are gone, and they will lose more E145s. It's high gas prices and old planes needing big mx checks. Throw in new rest/fatigue rules and higher hiring minimums, and it's gonna get interesting.


Bye Bye---General Lee

E135s still flying out of IAH as of a last week.... Still covering the flying from the saab 340s and the Q400. As long as Skywest Inc is creative and making money on them, or the EAS flying out of MSP/ORD, and now the AA flying will be Fee for Departure, the CR2 and the ERJs will continue to fly and make money... even thou its not as much as what it used to be when oil was lower. The CR2 is still making money/profit so it will still fly till it has to be turned into a beer can.

 

[General Lee]

E135s still flying out of IAH as of a last week.... Still covering the flying from the saab 340s and the Q400. As long as Skywest Inc is creative and making money on them, or the EAS flying out of MSP/ORD, and now the AA flying will be Fee for Departure, the CR2 and the ERJs will continue to fly and make money... even thou its not as much as what it used to be when oil was lower. The CR2 is still making money/profit so it will still fly till it has to be turned into a beer can.

With high gas prices, they will eventually die when heavy mx is required. That is exactly what happened to Comair. Enjoy your E135s while you can.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dojetdriver]

Are the 37 seaters flying now at Unical? They were going to cover Colgan Dash-8-400 flying, but Republic came in and saved the day. Have you been to Kingman, AZ and seen all of those ex COEX E135s? Go take a field trip you moron.

Well, there were around 40 initially by the end of 2008. But next time you take a "field trip" out there count them up. Should be down to something that will add up to less than your fingers and toes. So that should help you out, because you might be a little bit of a moron.

The 50s and everything smaller will dwindle as long as gas prices are high, and that doesn't bode well for the regionals. Luckily, the legacies will be hiring. LCCs like SWA will stagnate. I can see why you are hoping I am wrong, but look around you.


Bye Bye---General Lee

And now you're just being your complete tool like self. Who said I WANT the RJ's to stick around? You're making the assumption I'm a regional lifer, far from it. Park them all ASAP.

Get a clue, the 50 will always be around, just not in the numbers that existed previously.

With high gas prices, they will eventually die when heavy mx is required. That is exactly what happened to Comair. Enjoy your E135s while you can.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Seeing as how the 135's basically had a 2 year vacation in the sun filled paradise of Arizona, they may last a little longer.

 

[Clutch]

Sucks for ASA lifers like JM, CC, JB, JK, WF, etc. You know who you are. Tu eres mui patetico

 

[General Lee]

Well, there were around 40 initially by the end of 2008. But next time you take a "field trip" out there count them up. Should be down to something that will add up to less than your fingers and toes. So that should help you out, because you might be a little bit of a moron.



And now you're just being your complete tool like self. Who said I WANT the RJ's to stick around? You're making the assumption I'm a regional lifer, far from it. Park them all ASAP.

Get a clue, the 50 will always be around, just not in the numbers that existed previously.



Seeing as how the 135's basically had a 2 year vacation in the sun filled paradise of Arizona, they may last a little longer.

You're not a lifer.....okay... Anyway, at least you agree that there won't be the same amount as before (my whole point, thanks). And high gas will still park those E135s eventually, or UAL scope probably will. Good luck to you!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dojetdriver]

You're not a lifer.....okay... Anyway, at least you agree that there won't be the same amount as before (my whole point, thanks). And high gas will still park those E135s eventually, or UAL scope probably will. Good luck to you!


Bye Bye---General Lee

That's funny!!!!!!! Go back to post #38 where I said this;

Nope, the 50 seater will ALWAYS have it's place. Just not in the batsh1t crazy-post 9/11 BK era scope giveaway numbers. Remember the mantra pre-9/11? "The turbo prop IS dead". Funny, they're STILL around. And not just the Q's, 1900's, EMB-120's, -8's, etc.

Because when I posted that, you said they'd go away. NOW you're ACTUALLY agreeing with what I said initially in post #38. So it's you agreeing with my point and trying to save face. You should of ACTUALLY read my post before responding and making yourself look like the resident flightinfo tool shed you're know as.

 

[General Lee]

That's funny!!!!!!! Go back to post #38 where I said this;



Because when I posted that, you said they'd go away. NOW you're ACTUALLY agreeing with what I said initially in post #38. So it's you agreeing with my point and trying to save face. You should of ACTUALLY read my post before responding and making yourself look like the resident flightinfo tool shed you're know as.

Thanks, read my post #39, where I said they were becoming MORE extinct and there would be a handful left eventually, just like your handful of E135s in IAH. But hey, enjoy every second on those going to Killeen and Lafayette. Good for you! Fantastic!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[skyman50]

Main line partners pay for the gas to a contract budgeted amount. If a regional burns more, the regional pays for the rest. This is one reason why contracted flying saves legacy so much money......Its just like paying the electric bill in your house with different level rates.

 

[pilotnbr1]

Main line partners pay for the gas to a contract budgeted amount. If a regional burns more, the regional pays for the rest. This is one reason why contracted flying saves legacy so much money......Its just like paying the electric bill in your house with different level rates.

Sure about that? I have not heard of regional lift paying for their own Jet A in any way shape or form.... My experience is with Delta and ASA so correct me if I am wrong or you have reliable information (does that exist here? )

 

[Erlanger]

Main line partners pay for the gas to a contract budgeted amount. If a regional burns more, the regional pays for the rest. This is one reason why contracted flying saves legacy so much money......Its just like paying the electric bill in your house with different level rates.

The fuel company and mainline negotiate a bulk rate. If what you're saying was true don't you think the regionals would be keeping careful track of what fuel gets put on the airplanes? Most times the fuelers over fuel the planes and that's a lot of wasted fuel and fuel being burned to carry that extra fuel. At some outstations but at very few, the fuel is not bulk rate negotiated but payed by the gallon or pounds actually put on the airplane and you usually know that when the fueler hands you a fuel slip.

 

[XPOO]

I could be wrong, but as far as I know, SkyWest gets fuel reimbursements. Do those reimbursements cover all costs? That's the question

 

[bmpilot2003]

I could be wrong, but as far as I know, SkyWest gets fuel reimbursements. Do those reimbursements cover all costs? That's the question

You're right there at Headquarters, ask someone in the know there. In recurrent a few years ago the instructor went over some of the cost that are covered buy the CPAs. I was floored by what was covered. The only other one besides fuel i can remember was MX costs, but there were many others that were also covered. The reimbursement was not labeled fuel reimbursement but rather something like reimbursements/block hour and then broken down into several categories.

 

[Pilotbob3]

I had a eagle jumpseater on the jumpseat from DFW-DEN a few month ago. He was a 6 year guy, fresh new capt and already talking smack about his new hire FO first time on the jet. Anyways during the whole flight he was talking about AMR term sheet and referring as " WE" voted, "WE this", "WE that". I kept trying to follow his conversation until i finally asked him " who are we? did eagle merged with amr already?" he said " oh no american voted it". I would like to see him again and ask him if hes ok with his amr dream.

Sounds like all those RJ drivers at Delta Connections...saying they fly for Delta! LOL

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Omg, lol

 

[www.]

This will be funny to watch. Think we'll see an about face from some of the L-ASA lifers that scream that we need to be "cost competitive" and that we can't ask for industry leading pay rates?

"We need the HIGHEST pay rate possible on the -200 so I can bid down and go BACK to DFW without taking a pay cut!!!!!!!!!!"

As mentioned elsewhere, obviously XJT is "cost competitive" as it is now if they're able to secure NEW flying.

Do you do anything more that cry or Btch? Get a life.

 

[dojetdriver]

Do you do anything more that cry or Btch? Get a life.

You should stick to ONE username on here.

Hopefully you got em all before they started charging, more "cost competitive" that way.

 

[JumpersAway]

I'm just curious how long it will take for crew scheduling and maintenance to mess this flying agreement up. Clearly, whomever did the legwork with this at AA didn't do a bit of research. Isn't the flying we B@stardized in IAD enough of an example of just how inept and uncapable we truly are?

 

[Jon Rivoli]

The reimbursement is for a set rate per city pair; If we burn more, we eat it. If we burn less, we pocket the difference. That is how, perversely, the more expensive fuel gets, the more we make, especially four years ago (rates have been adjusted). Through our fuel conservation program we were consistently burning less than the contract fuel quantities and were making huge bank. This caused RA at Delta to have an aneurysm as Delta was losing money at the time and he has been at war with DCI ever since.