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well don't feed them bad info, we interview and hire a lot of commuters, probably most of them are. heck half the check airman on the classic are commuter types.

I can name a half dozen non-commuter types that have tried to upgrade and have had some difficulties and/or failures... come on Emb, don't generalize too much.
Of the last three new hire class at least most have had international time, some just in small or large equipment, but international none the less. We are still get a good mix of Corp, Commuter, furloughed major (UPS and United) and other (flying overseas for someone).
 
Of the last three new hire class at least most have had international time, some just in small or large equipment, but international none the less. We are still get a good mix of Corp, Commuter, furloughed major (UPS and United) and other (flying overseas for someone).

i agree, furloughed UPS, really?
UAL I have met, great bunch, but don't forget, other than military, those that went to UAL were more than likely a commuter.

good, we seem to have hired a great bunch and many without jobs which is also great.
 
those that went to UAL were more than likely a commuter.

When I said that we were not hiring commuter guys, I did not mean that they never flew for a commuter. I meant that they were not hiring guys straight from the commuters. Again, it would appear that they are. I just flew with a UAL guy and really enjoyed the trip with him. It is good to see they are hiring some great people.
 
Since I am kind of new, just curious about the class date. The bid was for Oct 10th, but then gets delayed without a new bid. Wondering what the union says about that? Maybe some pilot took out his bid because of some important function he had on Oct 15, but could well have attended the class if he new it was going to be late Oct. Doesn't really affect me either way, but I have seen this once or twice already in the short time I have been here so just curious.

The class dates put out on the bids are not set in stone the company can change them as they want without union interaction. Quiet a few classes have changed over the past couple of years for many reasons, sim back up's, IOE completion, class room availability (thats why the sim building is being expanded) etc. I wouldn't sweat it.
 
Quite a nice mix here. My class of last year:

- 1 - American F/O - furloughed

- 1 - UAL F/O - furloughed

- 2 - Former Midex Captains

- 2 - Former ATA Captains

- 1 - Delta - Former 737-800 Fleet Manager

- 2 - Commuter F/O's

All of us eligible to upgrade at the 10 month point. The American Dude bypassed AA recall to upgrade and is in class now.

Some of us bypassing upgrade for personal reasons have allowed a few folks at the 6-9 month level to get a slot.

Interesting times at a very interesting place...

YKW
 
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Couple of questions for you lot,

how long does it take to complete training IOE etc
and
how many hours do you fly ,on average, every month.

Thanks in advance.
 
Couple of questions for you lot,

how long does it take to complete training IOE etc
and

about 4 weeks of GS....3 weeks of sim....IOE is a crap shoot. took me about 3 weeks (included some fam rides in there) and had about 10 days off after sim. They are backed up right now....some guys have waited over two months for IOE.

how many hours do you fly ,on average, every month.

not sure....but i am guessing i have averaged maybe 60 hours of flying and 80 or so hours of pay.

Thanks in advance.


hope that helps
 
Thanks skypine69, I'm trying to figure out how long I could be making $600 a week for.

I guess I should have said credit hours as opposed to hours flown.
 
I just heard that the last new hire class for the year starts on Monday the 24th.
 
Which plane seems to be more covetted in initial bidding, the 744 or 742? Are the trips a lot different on those planes? Is it tougher to be an FO on the classic due to the single crew flying up to 12 hours without augmented crew?


Godspeed!


OYS
 
Which plane seems to be more covetted in initial bidding, the 744 or 742? Are the trips a lot different on those planes? Is it tougher to be an FO on the classic due to the single crew flying up to 12 hours without augmented crew?


Godspeed!


OYS

No initial bidding. You get a call with a class date offer for one of the AC. You can accept or reject. 18 month equipment lock...then you can bid to the other AC if you want. Right now upgrade on the classic is less than a year (or rather, the junior guys going thru upgrade right now have been here less than a year). The 400 is easier flying in my opinion....3 guys rotating thru 2 seats on the flight, but looking at a longer upgrade.
 
How often do the trips begin/end in EWR? I commute in and out of there weekly for my current job, and always see a Kalitta bird or 3 parked there.

Would getting a job for Connie more or less eliminate my commuting?
 
How often do the trips begin/end in EWR? I commute in and out of there weekly for my current job, and always see a Kalitta bird or 3 parked there.

Would getting a job for Connie more or less eliminate my commuting?

You will almost always start your trip in EWR or JFK especially if live out that way.
 
How often do the trips begin/end in EWR? I commute in and out of there weekly for my current job, and always see a Kalitta bird or 3 parked there.

Would getting a job for Connie more or less eliminate my commuting?

you'll never commute again, meaning Jumpseat on your time, regardless of where you start or finish.
 
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:cool: I have finally been invited for an iterview next month at Kalitta. Would any one be kind enough to share their recent interview experience and some current gouge please?

Also, I have read every single thread on this forum and APC about Kalitta, but I still had a few questions if some of you current Kalitta guys wouldn't mind answering.

1) My only goal is to travel and see the world. I realize you guys can fly all over the planet, but are your layover cities pretty varied? In other words, do you guys normally have overnights other than Liege, Bahrain, HKG, and ANC? Will I ever have the opportunity to layover in Japan, Australia, India, Dubai, or ICN for example? Are the hotels relatively decent in most places? How long is a typical layover?

2) I understand that by being home based one's duty day starts at 0001Z on day 1 and has to report by 0500Z and done on day 17 by 1900Z. So let's say I live in ORD. Does that mean the earliest I can be made to DH out of ORD on day one is 1801? And I have to be back in ORD by 1759 on day 17? So essentially day 1 and 17 are travel days?

3) What are typical duty days like? I see in the contract, depending on the type of crew and domestic or intl, that one can be on duty at Kalitta for up to 26-30 hours:eek:. How often does that happen? Are duty days like that normal?

4) How does vacation bidding work? I know that years 1-4 you get 14 days. Is it possible that your vacation days can fall on scheduled days off and you only get the vacation pay and no additional time off? Am I correct to assume that you should bid a line that has flying over your vacation days, which means that you would then work 10 days and have the rest of the month off?

5) I know you guys are in contract negotiations. How are those going? What sort of changes are you guys looking for? Anything specific that you guys are really trying to change? I can only assume things will continue to improve.

I would greatly appreciate any addition info and insight. Thanks for the help.:beer:
 
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You will definitely see dubai !!!
 
:cool: I have finally been invited for an iterview next month at Kalitta. Would any one be kind enough to share their recent interview experience and some current gouge please?

Also, I have read every single thread on this forum and APC about Kalitta, but I still had a few questions if some of you current Kalitta guys wouldn't mind answering.

1) My only goal is to travel and see the world. I realize you guys can fly all over the planet, but are your layover cities pretty varied? In other words, do you guys normally have overnights other than Liege, Bahrain, HKG, and ANC? Will I ever have the opportunity to layover in Japan, Australia, India, Dubai, or ICN for example? Are the hotels relatively decent in most places? How long is a typical layover?

The 400 is pretty consistent. We hit CVG, JFK, LEJ, BAH, HKG, DEL, ANC. Occasionally you will get something else...every once in awhile you will see a DXB or ICN layover. The classic is much more varied...going to South America more often, Africa, a little more flying in China as well it seems. Hotels are pretty nice for the most part....nicer when overseas. Some of our domestic hotels are just acceptable. Typical layover is anywhere from 12 hours to 4 days...IE, no such thing as typical!

2) I understand that by being home based one's duty day starts at 0001Z on day 1 and has to report by 0500Z and done on day 17 by 1900Z. So let's say I live in ORD. Does that mean the earliest I can be made to DH out of ORD on day one is 1801? And I have to be back in ORD by 1759 on day 17? So essentially day 1 and 17 are travel days?

Not sure where you get 1801 and 1759, but you have to be where they need you (CONUS) by 05z on your first day. If that means leaving before 00z then that is how it is. Living in ORD, you should not have too much trouble...go take a look at flights to JFK, EWR and CVG and you will get a sense of when you will need to leave. On the way home, you have to be CONUS by 19z OR home by 2359z. If either of these conditions are met they have complied with the contract and wont pay you for a day off. Example, (say you live on the west coast) get into JFK at 18z and the next flight available gets you home at 01z. You have met one of those conditions and the time it takes you to get home is considered a "commute".

3) What are typical duty days like? I see in the contract, depending on the type of crew and domestic or intl, that one can be on duty at Kalitta for up to 26-30 hours:eek:. How often does that happen? Are duty days like that normal?

I think for a 3 man crew on the 400 we are limited to 18 hours. Not sure what a 4 man crew is and not sure about the classic. I have not seen that long a day, but I know it happens. Had buddy on the classic do somewhere around 26 hours with a double crew I think.

4) How does vacation bidding work? I know that years 1-4 you get 14 days. Is it possible that your vacation days can fall on scheduled days off and you only get the vacation pay and no additional time off? Am I correct to assume that you should bid a line that has flying over your vacation days, which means that you would then work 10 days and have the rest of the month off?

Have not bid for vacation so not really sure, but I think you want to bid your monthly skd to overlap your vacation bid so you would get the whole month off. If you are not able to do that, I think you can cancel your vacation...but not positive about that.

5) I know you guys are in contract negotiations. How are those going? What sort of changes are you guys looking for? Anything specific that you guys are really trying to change? I can only assume things will continue to improve.

I will let the union guys discuss that...

I would greatly appreciate any addition info and insight. Thanks for the help.:beer:

Good luck...if you have the interview you pretty much have the job if you can keep the sim right side up!
 
Not sure where you get 1801 and 1759, but you have to be where they need you (CONUS) by 05z on your first day.

Thanks for all the info skypine. I live near ORD so I should have specified 1801 CST and 1759 CST. I was just thinking in terms of local time.

I am excited about this opportunity and hope it works out. If more of you Kalitta guys would chime in that would be great.
 
On the way home, you have to be CONUS by 19z OR home by 2359z. If either of these conditions are met they have complied with the contract and wont pay you for a day off.

It is actually "and" not a "or", although the company like the way you think. This one gets grieved often.
 
agreed....just giving the guy kind of the "worst case" situation. being still kind of new i dont think I would grieve that, although it has yet to affect me. Out of curiosity, what have been the outcomes of the grievances?
 
One more question. What is the future for Kalitta after CK is no longer around? What are the plans? I know this is a matter of opinion and speculation, but what do most of you think?
 
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One more question. What is the future for Kalitta after CK is no longer around? What are the plans? I know this is a mtter of opinion and speculation, but what do most of you think?

CK's nephew DK will run it for a while. In my opinion, I think K4 will eventually be sold.
 
:cool: I have finally been invited for an iterview next month at Kalitta. Would any one be kind enough to share their recent interview experience and some current gouge please?

Also, I have read every single thread on this forum and APC about Kalitta, but I still had a few questions if some of you current Kalitta guys wouldn't mind answering.

1) My only goal is to travel and see the world. I realize you guys can fly all over the planet, but are your layover cities pretty varied? In other words, do you guys normally have overnights other than Liege, Bahrain, HKG, and ANC? Will I ever have the opportunity to layover in Japan, Australia, India, Dubai, or ICN for example? Are the hotels relatively decent in most places? How long is a typical layover?

2) I understand that by being home based one's duty day starts at 0001Z on day 1 and has to report by 0500Z and done on day 17 by 1900Z. So let's say I live in ORD. Does that mean the earliest I can be made to DH out of ORD on day one is 1801? And I have to be back in ORD by 1759 on day 17? So essentially day 1 and 17 are travel days?

3) What are typical duty days like? I see in the contract, depending on the type of crew and domestic or intl, that one can be on duty at Kalitta for up to 26-30 hours:eek:. How often does that happen? Are duty days like that normal?

4) How does vacation bidding work? I know that years 1-4 you get 14 days. Is it possible that your vacation days can fall on scheduled days off and you only get the vacation pay and no additional time off? Am I correct to assume that you should bid a line that has flying over your vacation days, which means that you would then work 10 days and have the rest of the month off?

5) I know you guys are in contract negotiations. How are those going? What sort of changes are you guys looking for? Anything specific that you guys are really trying to change? I can only assume things will continue to improve.

I would greatly appreciate any addition info and insight. Thanks for the help.:beer:


Check out Kalitta's schedule and click on tail number to see 400 vs. Classic:

http://www.kalittaair.com/Schedule.aspx#
 
agreed....just giving the guy kind of the "worst case" situation. being still kind of new i dont think I would grieve that, although it has yet to affect me. Out of curiosity, what have been the outcomes of the grievances?

Not grieving that just because you are a 'new guy', keep that to yourself, If you really wouldn't, you should quit and go somewhere else.

You will have total support, you are only going to affect other "new guys" the wrong way.

Just because you are new is no reason to disregard the contract and let the company take advantage.
 
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Point taken....not really an issue since i have not had the situation arise yet. Understand the situation probation guys are in though. One person tells us one thing about the way the contract is interpreted and someone else says something different. We start sticking our necks out and making noise we could find ourselves out of a job. So far I have not really had any issues that were contrary to the contract, but I am sure it will happen in the future.
 
CK's nephew DK will run it for a while. In my opinion, I think K4 will eventually be sold.

Maybe. I think though that as long as it a cash cow (as it has been for a while now) I think things will stay as they are.
 
Well on the hiring front, heard today that classes of 20 a month through April starting in Jan and thats for starters. Jan class is 10/200 & 10/400.
 
Well on the hiring front, heard today that classes of 20 a month through April starting in Jan and thats for starters. Jan class is 10/200 & 10/400.

someone in training today said 12/12, still those are good numbers, no upgrades in Jan. just new hires.
 

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