IBT out! NJASAP in!

[FLYLOW22]

Net Jets Aviation Pilots are now represented by NJASAP.

IBT out!

 

[Just Peachy]

vote

Looks like 92% voted the new union in....

Only 42 votes were to keep the teamsters...WooHoo !!!!

 

[gunfyter]

Do I get to keep my Louisville Slugger?

 

[Newkem]

WHere does that leave the IBT brethren at Flight Options, and those companies IBT has been actively pursuing to organize?

 

[gunfyter]

I guess it means there has to be an election to replace the NJ pilots that hold leadership positions in 1108. FLOPS pilots will get all the positions.

 

[Hawkered]

Can somebody now let the secret out...where's Jimmy Hoffa buried?!

 

[Guitar Guy]

Can somebody now let the secret out...where's Jimmy Hoffa buried?!

According to the Mythbusters, the burial location is apparently not Giants stadium as was somewhat widely believed.

 

[jetwash]

Many thanks to the Netjets pilots for all of the work you have done to help start the 1108.

We at Flight Options won't forget all of the good work and help you have given us. We hope to one day be in a position to do the same for the other Frac pilots

 

[netjetwife]

Looks like 92% voted the new union in....

Only 42 votes were to keep the teamsters...WooHoo !!!!

Close.... 93.7% of those who voted (around 82% of the eligible pilots) chose NJASAP and 52 votes were for the Teamsters. My husband prefers to look forward and isn't talking much about the final score.

To all those NJ pilots who voted on the last day, I never doubted you guys would come thru.... but perhaps next time there's a vote y'all could take pity on the leadership and not make them wait to see that you're still following closely along. Active participation is a very important component of a Strong Union.
Thanks guys!
NJW

 

[netjetwife]

WHere does that leave the IBT brethren at Flight Options, and those companies IBT has been actively pursuing to organize?

Actually, better off because the IBT is now paying more attention to their flying members. They recently hired a new director of the Airline Division who has admitted that changes need to be made. Prior to the NJ pilots separation movement, that dept was a low priority as far as pilots went.

I'm glad that the FltOps pilots have inherited the 1108 and enough money to set up their own Union office and get them through their first year alone. They also have a signed/formal agreement with NJASAP to work together on future projects.

 

[netjetwife]

Many thanks to the Netjets pilots for all of the work you have done to help start the 1108.

We at Flight Options won't forget all of the good work and help you have given us. We hope to one day be in a position to do the same for the other Frac pilots

What a gracious post... I'll pass on your kind words to my husband. I'm glad the FltOps folks are taking over 1108. It is full of memories for the NJ pilotgroup and their families so it would have been sad to see it abandoned or taken over by strangers. This way its legacy will continue. NJW

 

[Starman]

The final numbers were actually 97.7% in favor of NJASAP. That's with nearly 82% of all eligible pilots casting a vote.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Don't forget to volunteer..... democracy isn't is spectator sport!!

 

[FLYLOW22]

Don't forget to volunteer..... democracy isn't is spectator sport!!

Hahaha. That is a very different topic and one that has been covered exhaustively on our NJASAP Board.

Just because one is willing and ASKED to volunteer doesn't mean one will be allowed to.

BO:smash: GR:smash: DS :smash:

 

[DO-82 driver]

Hahaha. That is a very different topic and one that has been covered exhaustively on our NJASAP Board.

Just because one is willing and ASKED to volunteer doesn't mean one will be allowed to.

Just because someone wants to volunteer doesn't mean they are the right person to do so as the time. Past performance doesn't assure future results.

Its ultimately up to the leadership to hand select who they feel would be best to further the cause for the benefit of ALL.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Just because someone wants to volunteer doesn't mean they are the right person to do so as the time. Past performance doesn't assure future results.

Its ultimately up to the leadership to hand select who they feel would be best to further the cause for the benefit of ALL.

And to assure that past, present and future agendas are in place, grudges intact and legacies whole.

It also pays to remember those that made the legacies a reality for them...

...and it would pay for you to have all the facts yourself before posting on this particular topic.

"Wants to voluteer..." How about asked, exceeded requirements and got shot down due to a political score to settle? How ALPAish. How (Mary Kate and Ashley) _ _ _ _ _ ish.

Just making the point here Bro that it's hardly about "rogering up" to volunteer for the group. It's about political steam, favors, contacts and favors.

What exactly was the role of the F/O Rep over the last 2 years BTW? Maybe you can answer that for me... since he couldn't.

 

[DO-82 driver]

This was dropped on our board...I suggest we do the same here.

 

[FLYLOW22]

This was dropped on our board...I suggest we do the same here.

I'm just sayin'.

No mod squad here to quell the complaints. Ohhh boooo.

I think it's a perfectly valid conversation.

Pilot A says, "VOLUNTEER!!! It's awesome and all you need do is ask."

I say, "Oh, I beg to differ. Even if you are qualified and have something to offer, you may be turned down because you made a friend of the Union president angry." Ahhhhh Politics. I can say that here.

You say, "Let's burry our heads in the sand. Kooobaya. Ignore the issue."


Yeah. Like ignoring any issue has ever been my style. You can stay out of the convo if you like...

 

[DO-82 driver]

OK....Fine....rank and rave all you want or feel you need.

I look forward to a spirited election process in the up coming months.

If there is much to change, form a slate and go for it. If you don't win I hope you con return to the line knowing you work for one of the greatest aviation jobs largely due to the fact of the historical changes brought about in this industry by some extremely intelligent and brave pilots, of which you are one.

If you can't deal with it......I have the e-mail address for Comair or Gulfstream.

 

[tk855]

OK....Fine....rank and rave all you want or feel you need.

I look forward to a spirited election process in the up coming months.

If there is much to change, form a slate and go for it. If you don't win I hope you con return to the line knowing you work for one of the greatest aviation jobs largely due to the fact of the historical changes brought about in this industry by some extremely intelligent and brave pilots, of which you are one.

If you can't deal with it......I have the e-mail address for Comair or Gulfstream.

No such thing as slates anymore when it comes to NJASAP elections, all must stand on their own merit.