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[jetmaster727]

It has taken me a long time to learn that no matter how much factual info you throw the non Union types about why we need this Union they just cannot see it. Used to have an instructor in the schoolhouse, call him Nixon, that was furloughed TWA. He was vehemently anti Union. But when the recal to AA came he jumped on it . I said , wow Nixon, the only reason you can do that is because of the Union. Answer: well it's different!

 

[Propilot77]

It has taken me a long time to learn that no matter how much factual info you throw the non Union types about why we need this Union they just cannot see it. Used to have an instructor in the schoolhouse, call him Nixon, that was furloughed TWA. He was vehemently anti Union. But when the recal to AA came he jumped on it . I said , wow Nixon, the only reason you can do that is because of the Union. Answer: well it's different!

Now that is some funny stuff right there....”different” hahahaha!

 

[doh]

It has taken me a long time to learn that no matter how much factual info you throw the non Union types about why we need this Union they just cannot see it. Used to have an instructor in the schoolhouse, call him Nixon, that was furloughed TWA. He was vehemently anti Union. But when the recal to AA came he jumped on it . I said , wow Nixon, the only reason you can do that is because of the Union. Answer: well it's different!

What was his name on here? He used to post a lot of BS...until he took that recall. Then he just shut right up, because his hypocrisy caught up with him. It was TWA something? What an a-hole!

 

[jetmaster727]

What was his name on here? He used to post a lot of BS...until he took that recall. Then he just shut right up, because his hypocrisy caught up with him. It was TWA something? What an a-hole!

You r correct ! But the worst was having him for a check ride and having to be subjected to his anti Union BS. Had lots of "discussions" with him but usually backed off at some point due to his position. Came real close to telling him to F off. Of course I would have been ejected from the " family" .
Funny how the "family" lovers forget how the company ruled over us like we are servants for the non Union years. Three am call outs !! Training intimidation, sick call reminders, didn't answer ur phone in rest reminders, and God forbid if you called fatigued. No one did it.
I recently had a long time Flex guy ask me if he had to go over 14 because he thought he couldn't refuse. That's the Flex mindset.

 

[Imissmypilot]

I have long been an advocate of our training protocol BUT NOT our training department.

Our company is simply too small to expect an in-house training department to be a good idea. The company could be sued out the wazoo if some of these antics got out. All I have to say is research the phone and wifi records of instructor's phones during training events (especially checkrides) and you'd be looking at a bankrupt DAC. Would you trust an instructor who's getting titty shots from his mistress during a checkride, forgets to adjust conditions, pilot fails? Happened. I have dozens more just as egregious examples. Management has long been aware too so don't expect much to be done about it.

Too often it is stacked with biased company yes men. I'm not saying this from personal experience but rather observational experience. I have always been smart enough to kiss ass and stay friendly. Friendly enough I can say I've heard first hand just exactly how bad it can be for a pro-union or unpopular pilot. The instructors at the schoolhouse are really no better than 6th grade girls when it comes to interpersonal conduct. Supposedly many of them are pro-union, and I used to believe that myself. But then you look at the past 3 years and follow the breadcrumbs and you'll see they were nothing more than double agents reporting back pilot positions to the company.

Look at the ones who got booted out years ago They're not willing to play the game. DAC has made that pre-condition of being the lenient or strong arm of management even worse. Look at the ones who stay/did stay forever or keep cycling back throughout the DAC term. Those are the ones you got to really watch out for... I wouldn't trust an instructor who's been a part of that place for the past 2 years with a wooden nickel, let alone my career. You gotta play the game or you'll be the next one cut down a notch during a TRB.

That's just one of the reasons for the Flexjet mindset JetMaster. It's years of self-preservation steeped into our bones.

 

[jetmaster727]

Another mindset is the Friday email that does nothing but bash the mcba. He never mentions the positive facts of being under the contract;
no in rest phone calls
max 14 hrs duty day on go home day ( used to be 16 )
90 min start before airline
no intimidation for sick call
No intimidation for fatigue call
no more training bull**** ( TRB , etc )
all flex captains got one year pay scale raise due truing up longevity
Increased per diem ( 42 $ every day of duty)
contract implementation bonus
back pay to October 10
Maintenance flights can be refused

and there's prob more

cmon RH stop lying !!

 

[justmeinmsp]

RH stop lying? That’s funny, I don’t care who you are. That’s all he knows how to do. He’s like Jon Lovitz, pathological liar

 

[Imissmypilot]

RH stop lying? That’s funny, I don’t care who you are. That’s all he knows how to do. He’s like Jon Lovitz, pathological liar

That's truth right there. The thing is even people who love him for some inexplicable reason recognize the accuracy of that statement. When the stakes aren't high it's occasionally entertaining but right now not so much.

 

[doh]

Does anyone have the contact information list of pilots on the decert "committee"? group? whatever they call themselves? Wookieboy moans about the lack of "transparency" from the union, but he won't even provide a phone number and email for himself. And NO, I won't be giving him my contact info to get on his porn site. But I do have questions I would like to ask his fellow decert members. The only way to assure the answers are their own and not being fed them by management is to be able to call them and get the answer in person. So if you have contact info for them, pm me please.

 

[jetmaster727]

Does anyone have the contact information list of pilots on the decert "committee"? group? whatever they call themselves? Wookieboy moans about the lack of "transparency" from the union, but he won't even provide a phone number and email for himself. And NO, I won't be giving him my contact info to get on his porn site. But I do have questions I would like to ask his fellow decert members. The only way to assure the answers are their own and not being fed them by management is to be able to call them and get the answer in person. So if you have contact info for them, pm me please.

Easy, contact them thru their work email that you already have. Mike R would love to hear from you. He used to be a friend.

 

[doh]

Easy, contact them thru their work email that you already have. Mike R would love to hear from you. He used to be a friend.

Using work email for union anything is the express lane to termination. And again, the question is why do they refuse to be transparent?

 

[jetmaster727]

Using work email for union anything is the express lane to termination. And again, the question is why do they refuse to be transparent?

Wait a second. RH uses email every Friday to bash the Union. All you want to do is ask some easy questions. No way you could get fired. Remember you now have Union protection for Chrissy's sake. Have some balls!

 

[doh]

Wait a second. RH uses email every Friday to bash the Union. All you want to do is ask some easy questions. No way you could get fired. Remember you now have Union protection for Chrissy's sake. Have some balls!

Remember the double standard of enforcement and you would still be unemployed until arbitration was done. No thanks.

 

[Bjtdrvr]

You can always ask for his number. Or say call me.

 

[TexasChallenger]

Gulfguy has been hammering him on the lack of transparency on his and PD’s part, but it’s of no use. It’s like they’re trying to run the clock out until (in their minds) the decert happens. They’re too busy getting caught up in a game of “I’m holier than thou” since they’ve been put in the hot seat by Gulfguy. He calls them out and they retaliate by accusing him of crossing some imaginary line with his remarks and MR actually demanded that he erase his posts if he wanted to continue the conversation with him! Heck, that never even happened on Yammer! All the while, they post nothing of substance.