Got the Rejection Letter from Usairways

[whiskytangofoxt]

Yeah, it seems like no favors for the guys that worked at the wholly owns

 

[Bringupthebird]

Chuck2's childish name calling makes his claims of Marine service very suspect. Would he say that to Parker's face? Do real Marines hide behind keyboards?

 

[zymotic]

You are right about the future but I was talking about the last five years or so. If the nic was used back then I would have been furloughed another three to four years and furlough pay is $0 so my low pay right now is better then $0. Because I have a huge mortgage (a really nice house) and other expenses I need all five (not 3) of my income streams. My low US Airways income helps and I'm in no position to influence anyone in the union about changing the situation.

Explain to me how you would have been furloughed three or four years but I was hired in late 2007 after the merger and only furloughed 21 months.

 

[JumpersAway]

I've seen absolutely NOTHING pertaining to USAPA in this thread title. Is it not possible to take this garbage to one of the other 100 threads that have taken this turn?

Moderators- no wonder people are bailing out of this forum for other's- those that come here for resources (and contribute meaningful information) are having to sift through more and more trash to accomplish this. Your once great forum has taken the path toward a bad Jerry Springer format. Any plans to fix this type of garbage?????

 

[charlie2]

I'm not sure about that. He supports Usapa and blames everyone for his groups failures.

There are 29 sections to our contract and the seniority list is one section, section 22 I believe. You are saying that it is USAPA's fault that management wont talk about the other 28 sections? We all know that section 22 is being contested and will eventually be decided in a court room but why can't we have a few other sections negotiated. If management doesn't even show up how exactly do you suugest we negotiate?

 

[charlie2]

Explain to me how you would have been furloughed three or four years but I was hired in late 2007 after the merger and only furloughed 21 months.

I can't believe you don't understand it but here goes. If the nic was implemented immediately I would have not been recalled from furlough in 2006 and would have stayed furloughed for another few years. You would not have been hired at all. Parker closed down the money losing base at LAS not long after the merger and a lot of flying at PHL and CLT was being done by west "metal". Yes by now I would have been finally recalled and be a bottom reserve in the 190. I'm glad you have a good attitude at being furloughed for "only 21 months". You must be like me and have other income.

 

[charlie2]

Chuck2's childish name calling makes his claims of Marine service very suspect. Would he say that to Parker's face? Do real Marines hide behind keyboards?

Name calling? I hope you're not implying that your CEO did not spend some jail time for endangering peoples lives by driving drunk are you? It's public information I can post a link if don't know how to do a google search. He really is an ex-con, it's not "name calling" and I hate the fact that a man with bad judgement is the CEO for the lousy company that I work for.

 

[JetMonkey]

uhh, he's your CEO too..

 

[charlie2]

uhh, he's your CEO too..

Yep re-read my post and you'll see that I said "the company I work for".

 

[Superbird]

There are 29 sections to our contract and the seniority list is one section, section 22 I believe. You are saying that it is USAPA's fault that management wont talk about the other 28 sections? We all know that section 22 is being contested and will eventually be decided in a court room but why can't we have a few other sections negotiated. If management doesn't even show up how exactly do you suugest we negotiate?

You cannot be serious Chuck! How far down/up the hole have you been hiding? Usapa is its own worst enemy, inept to boot! Ask the other Usapa cult members to show you what your beloved master is trying to get from the company. All the while knowing that they are asking for the impossible. Delay is Usapas only goal to fill the greed vacuum to make you whole at the expense of the west.

Usapa is afraid to let the east pilots vote. Usapa isn't interested in what the east pilots want. Usapa only cares about those who line up and carry their water whilst they benefit at the memberships expense. You, are a prime example. You're being screwed by Usapa and think its a good thing.

 

[Superbird]

I can't believe you don't understand it but here goes. If the nic was implemented immediately I would have not been recalled from furlough in 2006 and would have stayed furloughed for another few years. You would not have been hired at all. Parker closed down the money losing base at LAS not long after the merger and a lot of flying at PHL and CLT was being done by west "metal". Yes by now I would have been finally recalled and be a bottom reserve in the 190. I'm glad you have a good attitude at being furloughed for "only 21 months". You must be like me and have other income.

Grandpa/Marine,

Did Parker close PIT and BOS bases too? Why? Weren't they making money? Your post sounds like you're bragging about your lack of integrity and disrespect for the binding arbitration system. Please don't pass your values to your grand kids.

When were you hired btw?

 

[charlie2]

Grandpa/Marine,

Did Parker close PIT and BOS bases too? Why? Weren't they making money? Your post sounds like you're bragging about your lack of integrity and disrespect for the binding arbitration system. Please don't pass your values to your grand kids.

When were you hired btw?

So I'm thinking you are not goimg to talk to me about serious things like scope, min fleet and min utilization rates? He also closed the small town of New York City to get a couple slots in the huge metropolas of Washington DC.

 

[Superbird]

So I'm thinking you are not goimg to talk to me about serious things like scope, min fleet and min utilization rates? He also closed the small town of New York City to get a couple slots in the huge metropolas of Washington DC.

Usapa doesn't really care about anything other than delay and date of hire at everyone's expense. Ask your hero Crimi. Usapa is a failure.

 

[charlie2]

Usapa doesn't really care about anything other than delay and date of hire at everyone's expense. Ask your hero Crimi. Usapa is a failure.

So you wont then? Is it because you don't understand these important parts of a contract?

 

[charlie2]

Usapa doesn't really care about anything other than delay and date of hire at everyone's expense. Ask your hero Crimi. Usapa is a failure.

Ok Mam at least tell me why my questions aren't fair. I think they are but you apparently don't so don't worry about the actual contract questions but tell me why you think they aren't worth a discussion.

 

[Superbird]

Ok Mam at least tell me why my questions aren't fair. I think they are but you apparently don't so don't worry about the actual contract questions but tell me why you think they aren't worth a discussion.

Mam? Hitting the sauce tonight? I'm not surprised by your weak evasive responses. Don't like the subject, change it? Right? Make a feeble attempt at getting attention by calling someone names (DUI, mam). Like usapa, you are outclassed, and have no valid argument to support your actions. Where is the LUP? Where is Doh? What's the delay? Is usapa powerless?

 

[charlie2]

Mam? Hitting the sauce tonight? I'm not surprised by your weak evasive responses. Don't like the subject, change it? Right? Make a feeble attempt at getting attention by calling someone names (DUI, mam). Like usapa, you are outclassed, and have no valid argument to support your actions. Where is the LUP? Where is Doh? What's the delay? Is usapa powerless?

I'm actually asking a very specific question and yes I'm hitting the souce and then the women.

 

[Superbird]

I'm actually asking a very specific question and yes I'm hitting the souce and then the women.

You hit women? It's s-a-u-c-e. Seriously though, you need to look around soldier, your war ended years ago. You can stop manning the trenches. Usapa lost. Sorry the cult leader hasn't informed you and I hope you're not hittin the sauce peddled by usapa because its tainted.

 

[The Rookie]

I can't believe you don't understand it but here goes. If the nic was implemented immediately I would have not been recalled from furlough in 2006 and would have stayed furloughed for another few years. You would not have been hired at all. Parker closed down the money losing base at LAS not long after the merger and a lot of flying at PHL and CLT was being done by west "metal". Yes by now I would have been finally recalled and be a bottom reserve in the 190. I'm glad you have a good attitude at being furloughed for "only 21 months". You must be like me and have other income.

No one understands it because you are completely off base with the facts.

The Nicolau Award was issued on May 1, 2007. How in the world would its implementation affect your recall in 2006?

It's not your fault your were furloughed, but historically, arbitrators have always placed furloughed pilots below active pilots in a merged seniority list. It happened in 1980 with Pan Am/National, in 2007 with US/AWA and it'll happen again in '13 with UAL/CAL.

 

[Scoot 11]

So I'm thinking you are not goimg to talk to me about serious things like scope, min fleet and min utilization rates? He also closed the small town of New York City to get a couple slots in the huge metropolas of Washington DC.

Is this what you're talking about?

Or this?

Because with you, it's impossible to tell. You're all over the place and haven't been able to stay on point or get 1 fact right. But then, that seems to be the USAPA way now, right?