Go Jet Airlines, a reasonable option or a way to the blacklist?

[nwa_contrails]

Ooohhhh a zinger, don't worry ORD will be full of Gojet before you know it, flying flights that you were never wanted. Classes every month until late next year.

Disgusting to think that you worked at TSA.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Disgusting to think that you worked at TSA.

Yes but he was never a true waterskier...

 

[CX880]

Yes but he was never a waterskier...

I have no idea what that means but I did pass one of the worst training programs in all of the world, I guess that makes me a waterskier... Good luck, hopefully you can find something before they recall you in 2012.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

NO one really cares what TSA pilots think of Gojet. The majors surely don't. Do you really think guys with thousands of hours of Boeing time would jeapardize getting hired to fly one again by working for such an airline? Grow up - no one cares. TSA stole every bit of flying it ever got from other carriers. Eagle pilots hate TSA pilots, ACA and Air Whiskey guys hate TSA pilots (My neighbor is one of them).

Trans States guys are no different, you just lost your gamble from an MEC that didn't know what it was doing and played their Ace up their sleeve only to get trumped in court and by the NMB, have no where else to go but try to spin it however you can, and now try to take it out on innocent Gojet pilots who had nothing to do with it and are furloughed pilots from other carriers.

Gojet and TSA are no different than Skywest and ASA. Two separate airlines on two separate certificates. And before you even TRY to go there and say it's alter-ego, remember, that argument was lost not only in court but at the NMB. But go ahead and go there, you want to because it makes you feel better. No one cares.

I hope every TSA pilot who finds themselves furloughed will take advantage of pref hiring at Gojet and get back in the air rather than be stupid and NOT fly, NOT gain Jet experience and flip burgers instead. Pilots can upgrade as soon as they make the minimum flight times, and they get a 1 for 1 for every hour in the plane, with upgrades in a 75,000 lb airplane coming as quick as you can make the time in it. Pilots with over 3500 hours are going directly into the left seat. Turbojet 121 PIC time is golden. Go ahead and flip burgers and see what that does for the majors. There is no picket line being crossed here, the majors don't care about where you worked or where you got your PIC time. I also have NEVER seen a GoJet pilot "hold his head down", or "hide" in ORD (dumbasses believe that).

GoJet is just about the only regional currently hiring and not furloughing, and just about the only regional that not only is growing, but growing like crazy. A pilot hired today will be half-way up the seniority list by the end of 2009. Pay sucks, it is just above Mesa in the right seat but in the middle of the road in the left seat (but still sucks) for regional 70-seat pay.

From what it looks like though, Gojet's not having a problem hiring both high-time and TSA furloughed pilots. Pilots at Gojet have been hired at every Major and Southwest. The false rumors spread by the spikey-haired pilots who were born in the mid 80's or later, don't know what shoe polish is or how to turn on an Iron are wrong and can barely spell ATP (which is OK, they don't have one), let alone get their pulse on what is going on in the industry, and they are just upset because Gojet was formed to get around the strangle-hold of American Airlines, NOT the TSA pilots, and their little gamble did not pay off trying to force one list.

Good luck to all.

 

[Golden Falcon]

At th end of the day, there are more scabs working at Continental (remember children?)...so would you dissuade someone from accepting employment there??

 

[nwa_contrails]

I enjoy reading (and laughing my ass off at) your posts, Options. You sound like you've been totally brainwashed.

 

[temcgrew]

The AVERAGE flight time in my Gojet class was almost 10,000 hours. Our high-time guy had 19,000 hours. We had only 1 low-time guy, a Trans States guy with 1,000 hours who also happens to be an extremely sharp stick. All the others have extensive Jet experience, several type ratings and most have half their time in the left seat of Boeings.

Gojet's chief pilot won't even call anyone (other than a TSA furloughed pilot) with less than 4,500 hours for an interview. He told me that himself. He's got a stack of resumes a foot high from guys with high time, and those without the time go right in the trash.

And who can defend that? Let's furlough our own pilots and hire them again!!

You guys suck!!!!

 

[temcgrew]

GoJet is just about the only regional currently hiring and not furloughing, and just about the only regional that not only is growing, but growing like crazy. A pilot hired today will be half-way up the seniority list by the end of 2009. Pay sucks, it is just above Mesa in the right seat but in the middle of the road in the left seat (but still sucks) for regional 70-seat pay.

From what it looks like though, Gojet's not having a problem hiring both high-time and TSA furloughed pilots. Pilots at Gojet have been hired at every Major and Southwest. The false rumors spread by the spikey-haired pilots who were born in the mid 80's or later, don't know what shoe polish is or how to turn on an Iron are wrong and can barely spell ATP (which is OK, they don't have one), let alone get their pulse on what is going on in the industry, and they are just upset because Gojet was formed to get around the strangle-hold of American Airlines, NOT the TSA pilots, and their little gamble did not pay off trying to force one list.

Good luck to all.

There were more than spikey haired people hurt by gojet. People trying to raise famiies were given pay cuts and furloughed when gojet was still hiring off the street for captain positions.

Gojet might not be furloughing but the company that runs it is. Only a dirtbag operator would furlough pilots and hire them again. It should be one list, it SHOULD HAVE been one list from the start. Hulas should have been the one to do that, not the MEC.
I hope the history of your company stays in the open.

I don't care if you guys are being hired anywere else. That doesn't make it alright.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

There were more than spikey haired people hurt by gojet. People trying to raise famiies were given pay cuts and furloughed when gojet was still hiring off the street for captain positions.

Gojet might not be furloughing but the company that runs it is. Only a dirtbag operator would furlough pilots and hire them again. It should be one list, it SHOULD HAVE been one list from the start. Hulas should have been the one to do that, not the MEC.
I hope the history of your company stays in the open.

I don't care if you guys are being hired anywere else. That doesn't make it alright.

Says you. Says your MEC. The fact is, they are different airlines and they should NOT be one list, as was proved by the NMB and the Courts.

The bottom line is, Gojet's flying is NOT hurting TSA's flying. TSA does not fly 70-seat Jets. Gojet has not taken any flying from TSA, however TSA has taken all of its flying from other carriers. If Gojet did not exist, those pilots would still be furloughed. At least now they get preferrential hiring at just about the only airline who is hiring right now (and it IS a separate airline, as I stated above, no different than Skywest and ASA).

It's convenient to call other people dirtbags or dirtbag operators, but when you do you should be sure you have looked in the mirror, first.

nwa_contrails: Whatever. And.. WHO do you fly for?

Some people just do not want to face reality and only see the world the way they want to see it instead of how it really is. The fact that I, like most of the professional world, don't care about the little pissing contest between the TSA pilots and Hulas because he wanted to grow his business at TSAH, and the only way to do that was to start another airline to get around AA's scope, and he had the money to start up a completely different airline, that they tried to strong-arm him through legal channels and failed and now are all pissed because of it, is moot and no no one gives a sh!t, no one will ever give a sh!t, save the TSA pilots, who are no different than any other regional, who steal flying from whomever they can, whenever they can. And I'm the one who's brainwashed? Wake up!

 

[litlbrnman]

Geez, another one of these threads. I'll take the over on the 10-15 page prediction.

Where do I get in on the action?

 

[DannyNoonan]

Im good for 20$

 

[Mickey]

Currently ALPA is recommending that furloughed pilots go work at go jets. This just goes to show how spineless ALPA has become. ALPA rolled over on the fight to stop them and now this. It's sad that ALPA gives up so easy. I'm sure every airline is looking at how easy ALPA gave up and is working on ways to lower our wages even more. All they have to do is start another airline and move all their flying there.

 

[Turtlesfly]

CX880 and Options Slave do nothing on this board other than defend GoJets. Hell, they probably work for ALPA national.

As for the rest of people who care to stop crapping on other pilots, it is, and always will be, a scumbag operation.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

Currently ALPA is recommending that furloughed pilots go work at go jets. This just goes to show how spineless ALPA has become. ALPA rolled over on the fight to stop them and now this. It's sad that ALPA gives up so easy. I'm sure every airline is looking at how easy ALPA gave up and is working on ways to lower our wages even more. All they have to do is start another airline and move all their flying there.

I do not disagree with you regarding ALPA (Just look what they did to TWA.), but in Gojet's defense, they have not moved ANY flying to Gojet from TSA.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

CX880 and Options Slave do nothing on this board other than defend GoJets. Hell, they probably work for ALPA national.

As for the rest of people who care to stop crapping on other pilots, it is, and always will be, a scumbag operation.

And all you are is a scumbag pilot. All you do is knock other pilots and pilot groups - even your own. You're a typical complainer and do nothing but criticize others. Your opinion means squat and is predicable and therefore lame and moot.

I also don't "defend" GoJet (no "s" in Gojet) normally, just set the facts straight. The facts are not what the 6 to 12 TSA or alpa-brainwashed pilots on this board say they are. Gojet is no worse than any other regional - they are all whore operations with whore pilots working for them. Every RJ pilot whored himself to fly a Jet that mainline refused to fly for that price. That fact does not discount that they should not be mainline jobs. There is an infinite amount of pilot whores willing to whore themselves to fly RJ's for minimum wage, and that's the way it will always be, now.

I could really care less. Doesn't bother me what others think anyway, because no one gives a flyin' _ _ _ _. I sure don't.

 

[nwa_contrails]

I fly for TSA, Options, and thanks, I'm wide awake. I'm not going to sit here and waste mine and others time arguing with you over this. You've made your point crystal clear over the past couple months and threads, and it's obvious no one is going to change your mind.

You enjoy your drab career, (what's left of it), at GoJets. Please keep on posting though, it's quite humorous to see you keep defending yourself and the pukes that you work with.

 

[Turtlesfly]

I could really care less. Doesn't bother me what others think anyway, because no one gives a flyin' _ _ _ _. I sure don't.

Well we agree on one thing: nobody cares what a GJ pilot thinks.

 

[ALIMBO]

I don't give a damn what any pilot thinks I just need a job is there any disgrace in that? With my loans coming in what am I to do? Work for some subpar fast food business and put all my years of school to waste because it might not be the ethical thing to do?

 

[say again]

I don't give a damn what any pilot thinks I just need a job is there any disgrace in that? With my loans coming in what am I to do? Work for some subpar fast food business and put all my years of school to waste because it might not be the ethical thing to do?

That is exactly what you do

 

[ALIMBO]

Bad credit history here I come I guess.

 

[nwa_contrails]

I don't give a damn what any pilot thinks I just need a job is there any disgrace in that?

_YES._

 

[TSA ERJ]

Options, your posts are full of lies and half truths. You spin and mislead trying to justify yourself and your coworkers. You're nothing but an enabler of management in their efforts to undermine another pilot group and their contract.

 

[CX880]

Options, your posts are full of lies and half truths. You spin and mislead trying to justify yourself and your coworkers. You're nothing but an enabler of management in their efforts to undermine another pilot group and their contract.

You're full of ********************. Hulas promised the higher pay and a better contract but didn't have the money because of the cost of buying the certificate for the CRJ7s. The dumbass MEC who backstabbed the pilot group in an effort to save his ass for landing with the parking break set, told Hulas to go ******************** himself. Gojet was created and as promised they got the higher pay and a contrac, that would have been TSA if they had said yes. What's amazin is that even ALPA was trying to get the group to accept the CRJ7s. Now random guys are blaming GJ for their misfortunes and spreading hate to anyone that cares. Alimbo the time is now, however unless you are furloughed mainline or TSA, you might have to wait untill we get fat on CA candidates. Right now the resume stack is very high.

 

[TSA ERJ]

CX880, not even close. You just keep trying to justify yourself.

 

[CX880]

CX880, not even close. You just keep trying to justify yourself.

Yea, the truth hurts. But hey, enjoy the Eagle flying you guys are doing out of MIA.

 

[ROSWELL41]

NO one really cares what TSA pilots think of Gojet. The majors surely don't. Do you really think guys with thousands of hours of Boeing time would jeapardize getting hired to fly one again by working for such an airline? Grow up - no one cares. TSA stole every bit of flying it ever got from other carriers. Eagle pilots hate TSA pilots, ACA and Air Whiskey guys hate TSA pilots (My neighbor is one of them).

Trans States guys are no different, you just lost your gamble from an MEC that didn't know what it was doing and played their Ace up their sleeve only to get trumped in court and by the NMB, have no where else to go but try to spin it however you can, and now try to take it out on innocent Gojet pilots who had nothing to do with it and are furloughed pilots from other carriers.

Gojet and TSA are no different than Skywest and ASA. Two separate airlines on two separate certificates. And before you even TRY to go there and say it's alter-ego, remember, that argument was lost not only in court but at the NMB. But go ahead and go there, you want to because it makes you feel better. No one cares.

I hope every TSA pilot who finds themselves furloughed will take advantage of pref hiring at Gojet and get back in the air rather than be stupid and NOT fly, NOT gain Jet experience and flip burgers instead. Pilots can upgrade as soon as they make the minimum flight times, and they get a 1 for 1 for every hour in the plane, with upgrades in a 75,000 lb airplane coming as quick as you can make the time in it. Pilots with over 3500 hours are going directly into the left seat. Turbojet 121 PIC time is golden. Go ahead and flip burgers and see what that does for the majors. There is no picket line being crossed here, the majors don't care about where you worked or where you got your PIC time. I also have NEVER seen a GoJet pilot "hold his head down", or "hide" in ORD (dumbasses believe that).

GoJet is just about the only regional currently hiring and not furloughing, and just about the only regional that not only is growing, but growing like crazy. A pilot hired today will be half-way up the seniority list by the end of 2009. Pay sucks, it is just above Mesa in the right seat but in the middle of the road in the left seat (but still sucks) for regional 70-seat pay.

From what it looks like though, Gojet's not having a problem hiring both high-time and TSA furloughed pilots. Pilots at Gojet have been hired at every Major and Southwest. The false rumors spread by the spikey-haired pilots who were born in the mid 80's or later, don't know what shoe polish is or how to turn on an Iron are wrong and can barely spell ATP (which is OK, they don't have one), let alone get their pulse on what is going on in the industry, and they are just upset because Gojet was formed to get around the strangle-hold of American Airlines, NOT the TSA pilots, and their little gamble did not pay off trying to force one list.

Good luck to all.

Don't ever compare SkyWest and ASA again ever. Just because you got canned from Flight Options doesnt mean you should go around promoting GoJets. What a resume you have, bottom feeder fractional to bottom feeder regional.

 

[Turtlesfly]

I don't give a damn what any pilot thinks I just need a job is there any disgrace in that? With my loans coming in what am I to do? Work for some subpar fast food business and put all my years of school to waste because it might not be the ethical thing to do?

Yes, you are correct. Because by standing strong, there will be a job that you can go to that is worth your years of school.

 

[DX Rick]

...anyone mention the scumbag factor?

We're not talking about Obama here.

Plus, you knew what was going on at TSA. You elected to go there. Blame yourself.

 

[JoeMerchant]

I don't give a damn what any pilot thinks I just need a job is there any disgrace in that? With my loans coming in what am I to do? Work for some subpar fast food business and put all my years of school to waste because it might not be the ethical thing to do?

No...every other pilot on here is doing what is best for them.....GoJet was a direct result of failed APA/ALPA scope issues.....ALPA has scabs as members....and scabs have held positions within ALPA....There are no "ethics" in this so called "union"....

Do what is best for you and don't look back...

 

[Salukipilot4590]

We're not talking about Obama here.

Plus, you knew what was going on at TSA. You elected to go there. Blame yourself.

Oh you zinged me again my conservative friend!

Why would I blame myself? I joined a nobile cause and an awesome pilot group. I have NO regrets coming here and I dont have to blame anyone on this side of the table.