Go Jet Airlines, a reasonable option or a way to the blacklist?

[Options_SLAVE]

Does having 20,000 hours make you tougher, stronger, or meaner? I know plenty 20,000 hour pilots and I'd take any of them on in a street fight any day.

Pilots start losing their "gung-ho" factor at around 6,000 hours, from I have seen. I've never met a 20,000 hr pilot that could kick my ass either. ;-)

 

[Options_SLAVE]

This only two Go Jet pilots I ever saw at FSI was some spikey haired kid who looked about 13 years old sporting an ALPA lanyard and his obviously foreign sim partner (who looked like he was having a very rough time). They probably didn't have 1000 hours between the two of them.

Considering the quality of the grammar in your post I'm guessin' you too are one of these spikey-haired guys, and I doubt you have much more time, you speak with ignorance.

The AVERAGE flight time in my Gojet class was almost 10,000 hours. Our high-time guy had 19,000 hours. We had only 1 low-time guy, a Trans States guy with 1,000 hours who also happens to be an extremely sharp stick. All the others have extensive Jet experience, several type ratings and most have half their time in the left seat of Boeings.

Gojet's chief pilot won't even call anyone (other than a TSA furloughed pilot) with less than 4,500 hours for an interview. He told me that himself. He's got a stack of resumes a foot high from guys with high time, and those without the time go right in the trash.

I DID see two "kids" playing pilot with spikey hair and one had an Ipod on his belt (yes, in flight safety, and no, not an iPhone!) and they were wearing ALPA lanyards too, but they were there for the 170 for Shuttle America. They were on their sim break and both typing about 80 words per minute with their thumbs texting people.

Regionals will have spikey-or frosty-haired twenty-somethings that still have their high school graduation cap tassle hanging from their rear-view mirrors of their cars who all think they "made it now" and fly around in a Jet that should be flown by a Major, and they all think their sh!t don't stink and they are the best pilot ever, meanwhile the sim instructors just roll their eyes watching them try to do V-1 cuts and trying to figure out what you mean by "fly the profile". I'm sure Gojet is no different, but neither is your own airline, mister 2,000 hrs.

 

[waterski]

I guess not 1800 282 ALPA

 

[ifly4u]

Considering the quality of the grammar in your post I'm guessin' you too are one of these spikey-haired guys, and I doubt you have much more time, you speak with ignorance.

The AVERAGE flight time in my Gojet class was almost 10,000 hours. Our high-time guy had 19,000 hours. We had only 1 low-time guy, a Trans States guy with 1,000 hours who also happens to be an extremely sharp stick. All the others have extensive Jet experience, several type ratings and most have half their time in the left seat of Boeings.

Gojet's chief pilot won't even call anyone (other than a TSA furloughed pilot) with less than 4,500 hours for an interview. He told me that himself. He's got a stack of resumes a foot high from guys with high time, and those without the time go right in the trash.

I DID see two "kids" playing pilot with spikey hair and one had an Ipod on his belt (yes, in flight safety, and no, not an iPhone!) and they were wearing ALPA lanyards too, but they were there for the 170 for Shuttle America. They were on their sim break and both typing about 80 words per minute with their thumbs texting people.

Regionals will have spikey-or frosty-haired twenty-somethings that still have their high school graduation cap tassle hanging from their rear-view mirrors of their cars who all think they "made it now" and fly around in a Jet that should be flown by a Major, and they all think their sh!t don't stink and they are the best pilot ever, meanwhile the sim instructors just roll their eyes watching them try to do V-1 cuts and trying to figure out what you mean by "fly the profile". I'm sure Gojet is no different, but neither is your own airline, mister 2,000 hrs.

I only have 2000 hours, and yet you are still beneath me because you work for Go Jet. Imagine that! :laugh:

 

[Ezralite]

Gj trains in STL Flight Safety. When you see those guys around I dare you to stop them and tell those exact words to their face. Find one that preferably looks like they have 20000 hours.

Scumbag pilot + 20,000 hours = 20,000 hour scumbag pilot

What do you know? It all adds up!

By the way, I'd be glad to let some HoJet pilots know what I think of them, but every time I walk through Terminal 2 in O'Hare they all seem to be hiding. Maybe they walk around carrying fake bushes in front of them so nobody will see them. Or maybe it's because cockroaches all go scurrying away when the lights go on.

 

[CX880]

By the way, I'd be glad to let some HoJet pilots know what I think of them, but every time I walk through Terminal 2 in O'Hare they all seem to be hiding. Maybe they walk around carrying fake bushes in front of them so nobody will see them. Or maybe it's because cockroaches all go scurrying away when the lights go on.

Ooohhhh a zinger, don't worry ORD will be full of Gojet before you know it, flying flights that you were never wanted. Classes every month until late next year.

 

[Ezralite]

Ooohhhh a zinger, don't worry ORD will be full of Gojet before you know it, flying flights that you were never wanted. Classes every month until late next year.

If you're so proud of your HoJob would you mind giving me your name? My list needs updating.

 

[GuppyWN]

...anyone mention the scumbag factor?

This coming from the Obama supporter? Thanks for the laugh.

Gup

 

[Salukipilot4590]

This coming from the Obama supporter? Thanks for the laugh.

Gup

Not a problem...when you're out on your a$$ because of a man who dislikes labor unions feel free to laugh a little more. If you dont know already unemployment in this country is a b#tch...thanks again CX880... I owe you one...

 

[CX880]

Not a problem...when you're out on your a$$ because of a man who dislikes labor unions feel free to laugh a little more. If you dont know already unemployment in this country is a b#tch...thanks again CX880... I owe you one...

GJ is pref hiring TSA. 10 already here, with more in different classes according to hr. By the way I'm still undecided, don't like both.

 

[nwa_contrails]

Ooohhhh a zinger, don't worry ORD will be full of Gojet before you know it, flying flights that you were never wanted. Classes every month until late next year.

Disgusting to think that you worked at TSA.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Disgusting to think that you worked at TSA.

Yes but he was never a true waterskier...

 

[CX880]

Yes but he was never a waterskier...

I have no idea what that means but I did pass one of the worst training programs in all of the world, I guess that makes me a waterskier... Good luck, hopefully you can find something before they recall you in 2012.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

NO one really cares what TSA pilots think of Gojet. The majors surely don't. Do you really think guys with thousands of hours of Boeing time would jeapardize getting hired to fly one again by working for such an airline? Grow up - no one cares. TSA stole every bit of flying it ever got from other carriers. Eagle pilots hate TSA pilots, ACA and Air Whiskey guys hate TSA pilots (My neighbor is one of them).

Trans States guys are no different, you just lost your gamble from an MEC that didn't know what it was doing and played their Ace up their sleeve only to get trumped in court and by the NMB, have no where else to go but try to spin it however you can, and now try to take it out on innocent Gojet pilots who had nothing to do with it and are furloughed pilots from other carriers.

Gojet and TSA are no different than Skywest and ASA. Two separate airlines on two separate certificates. And before you even TRY to go there and say it's alter-ego, remember, that argument was lost not only in court but at the NMB. But go ahead and go there, you want to because it makes you feel better. No one cares.

I hope every TSA pilot who finds themselves furloughed will take advantage of pref hiring at Gojet and get back in the air rather than be stupid and NOT fly, NOT gain Jet experience and flip burgers instead. Pilots can upgrade as soon as they make the minimum flight times, and they get a 1 for 1 for every hour in the plane, with upgrades in a 75,000 lb airplane coming as quick as you can make the time in it. Pilots with over 3500 hours are going directly into the left seat. Turbojet 121 PIC time is golden. Go ahead and flip burgers and see what that does for the majors. There is no picket line being crossed here, the majors don't care about where you worked or where you got your PIC time. I also have NEVER seen a GoJet pilot "hold his head down", or "hide" in ORD (dumbasses believe that).

GoJet is just about the only regional currently hiring and not furloughing, and just about the only regional that not only is growing, but growing like crazy. A pilot hired today will be half-way up the seniority list by the end of 2009. Pay sucks, it is just above Mesa in the right seat but in the middle of the road in the left seat (but still sucks) for regional 70-seat pay.

From what it looks like though, Gojet's not having a problem hiring both high-time and TSA furloughed pilots. Pilots at Gojet have been hired at every Major and Southwest. The false rumors spread by the spikey-haired pilots who were born in the mid 80's or later, don't know what shoe polish is or how to turn on an Iron are wrong and can barely spell ATP (which is OK, they don't have one), let alone get their pulse on what is going on in the industry, and they are just upset because Gojet was formed to get around the strangle-hold of American Airlines, NOT the TSA pilots, and their little gamble did not pay off trying to force one list.

Good luck to all.

 

[Golden Falcon]

At th end of the day, there are more scabs working at Continental (remember children?)...so would you dissuade someone from accepting employment there??

 

[nwa_contrails]

I enjoy reading (and laughing my ass off at) your posts, Options. You sound like you've been totally brainwashed.

 

[temcgrew]

The AVERAGE flight time in my Gojet class was almost 10,000 hours. Our high-time guy had 19,000 hours. We had only 1 low-time guy, a Trans States guy with 1,000 hours who also happens to be an extremely sharp stick. All the others have extensive Jet experience, several type ratings and most have half their time in the left seat of Boeings.

Gojet's chief pilot won't even call anyone (other than a TSA furloughed pilot) with less than 4,500 hours for an interview. He told me that himself. He's got a stack of resumes a foot high from guys with high time, and those without the time go right in the trash.

And who can defend that? Let's furlough our own pilots and hire them again!!

You guys suck!!!!

 

[temcgrew]

GoJet is just about the only regional currently hiring and not furloughing, and just about the only regional that not only is growing, but growing like crazy. A pilot hired today will be half-way up the seniority list by the end of 2009. Pay sucks, it is just above Mesa in the right seat but in the middle of the road in the left seat (but still sucks) for regional 70-seat pay.

From what it looks like though, Gojet's not having a problem hiring both high-time and TSA furloughed pilots. Pilots at Gojet have been hired at every Major and Southwest. The false rumors spread by the spikey-haired pilots who were born in the mid 80's or later, don't know what shoe polish is or how to turn on an Iron are wrong and can barely spell ATP (which is OK, they don't have one), let alone get their pulse on what is going on in the industry, and they are just upset because Gojet was formed to get around the strangle-hold of American Airlines, NOT the TSA pilots, and their little gamble did not pay off trying to force one list.

Good luck to all.

There were more than spikey haired people hurt by gojet. People trying to raise famiies were given pay cuts and furloughed when gojet was still hiring off the street for captain positions.

Gojet might not be furloughing but the company that runs it is. Only a dirtbag operator would furlough pilots and hire them again. It should be one list, it SHOULD HAVE been one list from the start. Hulas should have been the one to do that, not the MEC.
I hope the history of your company stays in the open.

I don't care if you guys are being hired anywere else. That doesn't make it alright.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

There were more than spikey haired people hurt by gojet. People trying to raise famiies were given pay cuts and furloughed when gojet was still hiring off the street for captain positions.

Gojet might not be furloughing but the company that runs it is. Only a dirtbag operator would furlough pilots and hire them again. It should be one list, it SHOULD HAVE been one list from the start. Hulas should have been the one to do that, not the MEC.
I hope the history of your company stays in the open.

I don't care if you guys are being hired anywere else. That doesn't make it alright.

Says you. Says your MEC. The fact is, they are different airlines and they should NOT be one list, as was proved by the NMB and the Courts.

The bottom line is, Gojet's flying is NOT hurting TSA's flying. TSA does not fly 70-seat Jets. Gojet has not taken any flying from TSA, however TSA has taken all of its flying from other carriers. If Gojet did not exist, those pilots would still be furloughed. At least now they get preferrential hiring at just about the only airline who is hiring right now (and it IS a separate airline, as I stated above, no different than Skywest and ASA).

It's convenient to call other people dirtbags or dirtbag operators, but when you do you should be sure you have looked in the mirror, first.

nwa_contrails: Whatever. And.. WHO do you fly for?

Some people just do not want to face reality and only see the world the way they want to see it instead of how it really is. The fact that I, like most of the professional world, don't care about the little pissing contest between the TSA pilots and Hulas because he wanted to grow his business at TSAH, and the only way to do that was to start another airline to get around AA's scope, and he had the money to start up a completely different airline, that they tried to strong-arm him through legal channels and failed and now are all pissed because of it, is moot and no no one gives a sh!t, no one will ever give a sh!t, save the TSA pilots, who are no different than any other regional, who steal flying from whomever they can, whenever they can. And I'm the one who's brainwashed? Wake up!

 

[litlbrnman]

Geez, another one of these threads. I'll take the over on the 10-15 page prediction.

Where do I get in on the action?