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You can't just look at the age 65 numbers. There will be several more who medical out and still more that call it quits around 62 when they're eligible for social security. I've flown with quite a few lately who are planning to leave "early"
You said it right in your post. I figure you have so many resumes, it's just easy to toss out the ones that don't have a four year degree and no internal rec. No biggie. That's why I am paying through the butt to get my degree done. One less reason for someone to throw out my resume.
How about toss out the ones with no type ratings and no turbine PIC.![]()
Fair enough. My point being is I don't think anyone should get to excited about the rumor of hiring 24 a month for all of 2012. We've already had a fair amount of medical outs, and age 62 has been in effect for at least a year or two, and we don't (at least at this point) need 24 a month. The only firm, absolute number the company can count on is age 65. And that flood gate is still a few years off.
:beer: Nothing is more frustrating than hearing of an FO that got hired somewhere just because he happened to run into someone when jumpseating. I guess on my days off I should just look for full flights on airlines I want to work for so I can sit in the jumpseat.![]()
p.s. this wasn't airways.
Fair enough. My point being is I don't think anyone should get to excited about the rumor of hiring 24 a month for all of 2012. We've already had a fair amount of medical outs, and age 62 has been in effect for at least a year or two, and we don't (at least at this point) need 24 a month. The only firm, absolute number the company can count on is age 65. And that flood gate is still a few years off.
So, I can't stay at the regionals, I can't go to Air Tran, I can't go to U.S. Airways. I guess my only options are SWA and Delta? Give me a break. US Airways is better than the regional I am at. There is some risk, but there is also a chance it could work out well for me. This board is funny sometimes. Everyone should be trying to get on at SWA or Delta. I am sure there will be enough jobs for all of us, right?
And if it doesn't ?
PHXFLYR
6000 hours, a check airman, 4 year degree, and a clean record. I have mulitiple references along with a dad thats a captain there. No call..
Sometimes there is just no rhyme or reason to anything. If there were, there would be a super matrix that automatically puts everyone with the mostest at the perceived bestest airlines on down to the worstest in correct order.
6000 hours, a check airman, 4 year degree, and a clean record. I have mulitiple references along with a dad thats a captain there. No call..
Hope that it turns out better than 1999-2001.
I see another CF merger coming.
The most junior newhire on property is only about 400 #'s from holding E190 Captain right now....
Once retirements start you should be holding E190 Captain in less then two years as a newhire.
I may have not been around as long as some of you guys but by now I know enough to not to believe anything in this industry that comes from:
1. FAA/POI
2. training dept.
3. CA or "senior" CA, FO or "senior" FO
4. check airman
5. CP/DO/fleet CA
6. FA
7. MX
8. Ramper
9. Gate Agent
10. Management: especially management at a "town hall" meeting/video
11. Union
12. Dispatcher
13. Scheduler
and last but not least, the ever elusive "guy in the jumpseat" that knows someone in any position listed in 1 to 13 above. How come after 12 years and 10K hours of 121 time I can't get this "jumpseat guy" that seems to know every rumor on any of my flights? He seems about as hard to find/meet as that Charlie guy they were looking for back in Nam.
but that would mean the 190's have to be still on the property in 2 years and from what I'm told (from line flying rumor mill central) is that that doesn't seem to be the case. Last I was told from a CA that "knows" someone in Tempe (that knows someone that's related to someone that knows someone in the "loop") is that the 190 lease prices go up next year and they will turn the 15 remaining a/c in.
I may have not been around as long as some of you guys but by now I know enough.....
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I wasn't intending to comment on how long you've been around in any way, shape, or form. In fact I'm merely a west rookie. It's just that what you said a CA told you about the 190s next year made me think back to something that struck me when I was a 757 fo.
Captains used to tell me all kinds of things, and usually the more senior they were the farther off they were, about whatever it was they were talking about. And the more wacked out it was, the more they seemed sure about it. I swear some of those guys got their ideas from Mars or something. It was kind of funny the way some of the fas thought they were hearing it straight from Moses too.
The rest of your post about sums it up.
just my 2 cents worth, but i think you have to much time, i think U.S Air are looking for low time guys who are willing to work for 2950/month before taxes. That is going to be very hard to survive on. I dont think any CRJ Capt would want to go there for a big pay cut and quality of life.