G4dude wants to scab thread.

[Diesel]

I am not planning to scab.

Nobody believes that at this point.

You have defended scabs at every point.

You're enjoying playing with the words. Good for you at least you're doing something.

See you in Omaha.

 

[G4dude]

Nobody believes that at this point.

You have defended scabs at every point.

You're enjoying playing with the words. Good for you at least you're doing something.

See you in Omaha.

Go f!ck yourself.

 

[Hawkered]

Go f!ck yourself.

Really professional!!

 

[PCL_128]

Go f!ck yourself.

There's the real G4dude! Thought so.

 

[Diesel]

Go f!ck yourself.

So when this is what you're reduced to in an argument, you've lost.

Of course the rest of us already knew this long before this point.

 

[fischman]

Go f!ck yourself.

Wow...

Geez man... This is how you know you've lost an argument.

 

[Diesel]

Wow...

Geez man... This is how you know you've lost an argument.

Silence for days.

I'll see him on the road and ask him why he won't return.

 

[ghostrider64]

He's not good for the industry or our union. Ask him to participate, and he devolves into nothing. I'll save him a sign in Omaha, and if he fails to show, which is a certainty, I'll carry the load for him...

 

[Diesel]

He's not good for the industry or our union. Ask him to participate, and he devolves into nothing. I'll save him a sign in Omaha, and if he fails to show, which is a certainty, I'll carry the load for him...

We all will carry the load for him. He will live in ignorance and ensure that his little world is secure.. All the while blaming those big bad unions and never understanding that he could have helped secure the future.

As usually I'm willing to find a trip for him and his wife to travel to Omaha and support his fellow brothers and sisters instead of disparaging them on message boards talking broadly about a subject he hasn't the smallest clue about.

 

[niners]

Do you agree with the way union people act in this regard?

I don't think it matters if you agree with the way union members act in this regard or not. This is the way it is. I am at an airline that is in the same situation as Netjets right now. We just recently had a strike vote that passed overwhelmingly. We have a few scabs on the seniority list (even one from the Eastern days). He catches HELL every day!!! I was on the hiring board at this airline and I can tell you that most, if not all hiring boards, will not hire a scab because the fight they will have with their own pilot group is not worth it. This is something else to take into consideration. If god for bid something ever happened to Netjets, where would you find another flying job? If you do decide to cross, you WILL be on that list forever. The Eastern scab I spoke of earlier decide to join the fight this time, but he is still and always will be a scab regardless if he walks with us or not. Will it be worth the hell you will receive from your fellow line pilots for the rest of your career? Now I am not the biggest union supporter out there, but I have every intention of walking with my fellow line pilots if it ever gets that far. Think long and hard about the decision you have to make!

 

[Diesel]

G4Dude are you reading any of these threads?

Have you figured out the deal yet? Have you joined the fight or will you continue to watch from the sidelines? Hoping that someone else will make it better for you?

It isn't the pilots talking about how screwed up this place has gotten. It's the mechanics, it's the FA's and it's the people upstairs.

Noe is gone. Shizzle is about to get real pretty soon. Omaha is coming up. When will the south rise up and fight to make this place a better place for us?

Lets go!! My offer still stands you and your wife can have an all expense paid trip to Omaha to support the pilots of this company.

 

[Diesel]

Let's go buddy you just logged on yesterday and aren't jumping in the post?

Last Activity: Yesterday 09:28
Join Date: 12-24-2004

Are you going to take me up on my offer to head to omaha?

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Diesel:

Why do you care what his opinion and options are? If you are correct in your assumptions, his mediocre voice and vote should not count in the overall scheme of things.

The important question is simple ... Are you afraid of his opinion or of your position?

If, as you postulate, unions solve employment situations, you should prevail absent his opinion. My opinion is equally simple ...Drop it and move on. If you don't you will continue to be perceived as defending the indefensible.

Bob

 

[Diesel]

Diesel:

Why do you care what his opinion and options are? If you are correct in your assumptions, his mediocre voice and vote should not count in the overall scheme of things.

The important question is simple ... Are you afraid of his opinion or of your position?

If, as you postulate, unions solve employment situations, you should prevail absent his opinion. My opinion is equally simple ...Drop it and move on. If you don't you will continue to be perceived as defending the indefensible.

Bob

I care because I hate seeing people make the wrong choice based of lack of knowledge and understanding. Especially when that bad choice will haunt the, for the rest of their careers while hurting their fellow pilots.

We are only as strong as our weakest link and this is even more true in union negotiations. The company is looking for 50% +1 that's all they need and that's all they are aiming for.

I flew with a pilot that thought we should all pay for our healthcare. When I picked my mouth up off the floor I asked him how long before he was retiring. He said within a year. I asked him if he would be thinking the same thing if he still had 20 years to go in his career. To his credit he said no he didn't think he would. He was just hoping for a bonus before he retired and didn't think about the long term affects.

The next morning over the typical embassy suites breakfast he told me he thought a lot about what we talked about and that his short term thinking would hurt a lot of friends in the long term.

I agreed.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

The pilot that exhibits scab-like behavior also hurts their fellow pilots.

 

[Diesel]

Hey g4dude there is a no confidence vote coming up. All you have to do is click a button. Will you be doing that?

Don't worry my offer still stands for Omaha but I'm going to bump it to first class, hotel, and per diem.

 

[gutshotdraw]

A very senior PIC friend of mine cast his no confidence vote yesterday. If you know what I mean.

 

[jonjuan]

If you know what I mean.

That you have a friend?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Hahaha! Well played, sir.

 

[Diesel]

Let's hope he at least clicked on the email and voted to support the union.