G4dude wants to scab thread.

[Diesel]

G4Dude are you reading any of these threads?

Have you figured out the deal yet? Have you joined the fight or will you continue to watch from the sidelines? Hoping that someone else will make it better for you?

It isn't the pilots talking about how screwed up this place has gotten. It's the mechanics, it's the FA's and it's the people upstairs.

Noe is gone. Shizzle is about to get real pretty soon. Omaha is coming up. When will the south rise up and fight to make this place a better place for us?

Lets go!! My offer still stands you and your wife can have an all expense paid trip to Omaha to support the pilots of this company.

 

[Diesel]

Let's go buddy you just logged on yesterday and aren't jumping in the post?

Last Activity: Yesterday 09:28
Join Date: 12-24-2004

Are you going to take me up on my offer to head to omaha?

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Diesel:

Why do you care what his opinion and options are? If you are correct in your assumptions, his mediocre voice and vote should not count in the overall scheme of things.

The important question is simple ... Are you afraid of his opinion or of your position?

If, as you postulate, unions solve employment situations, you should prevail absent his opinion. My opinion is equally simple ...Drop it and move on. If you don't you will continue to be perceived as defending the indefensible.

Bob

 

[Diesel]

Diesel:

Why do you care what his opinion and options are? If you are correct in your assumptions, his mediocre voice and vote should not count in the overall scheme of things.

The important question is simple ... Are you afraid of his opinion or of your position?

If, as you postulate, unions solve employment situations, you should prevail absent his opinion. My opinion is equally simple ...Drop it and move on. If you don't you will continue to be perceived as defending the indefensible.

Bob

I care because I hate seeing people make the wrong choice based of lack of knowledge and understanding. Especially when that bad choice will haunt the, for the rest of their careers while hurting their fellow pilots.

We are only as strong as our weakest link and this is even more true in union negotiations. The company is looking for 50% +1 that's all they need and that's all they are aiming for.

I flew with a pilot that thought we should all pay for our healthcare. When I picked my mouth up off the floor I asked him how long before he was retiring. He said within a year. I asked him if he would be thinking the same thing if he still had 20 years to go in his career. To his credit he said no he didn't think he would. He was just hoping for a bonus before he retired and didn't think about the long term affects.

The next morning over the typical embassy suites breakfast he told me he thought a lot about what we talked about and that his short term thinking would hurt a lot of friends in the long term.

I agreed.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

The pilot that exhibits scab-like behavior also hurts their fellow pilots.

 

[Diesel]

Hey g4dude there is a no confidence vote coming up. All you have to do is click a button. Will you be doing that?

Don't worry my offer still stands for Omaha but I'm going to bump it to first class, hotel, and per diem.

 

[gutshotdraw]

A very senior PIC friend of mine cast his no confidence vote yesterday. If you know what I mean.

 

[jonjuan]

If you know what I mean.

That you have a friend?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Hahaha! Well played, sir.

 

[Diesel]

Let's hope he at least clicked on the email and voted to support the union.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Dude, if you're reading,

Don't think of it as "supporting the union." We know you won't do that and I get it.

Think of it as sending a message that NEEDS to be sent in an effort to FIX this place before it implodes.

Savvy?

 

[Diesel]

Dude, if you're reading,

Don't think of it as "supporting the union." We know you won't do that and I get it.

Think of it as sending a message that NEEDS to be sent in an effort to FIX this place before it implodes.

Savvy?

Of course he is reading.

 

[ghostrider64]

SG3---GIV same same....

He's reading but realized he's tainted his own name.

 

[G4dude]

Dude, if you're reading,

Don't think of it as "supporting the union." We know you won't do that and I get it.

Think of it as sending a message that NEEDS to be sent in an effort to FIX this place before it implodes.

Savvy?

I am thinking about the "no confidence" vote. I think there are several things CMH does wrong, but some things they do right. If you think it will do some good, I will vote for it. Not as just a symbolic thing to embarrass Warren.

 

[Diesel]

I am thinking about the "no confidence" vote. I think there are several things CMH does wrong, but some things they do right. If you think it will do some good, I will vote for it. Not as just a symbolic thing to embarrass Warren.

Please for the love of god list what they are doing right! I would love to hear your list.

Dear god man get some balls. Have you noticed how many vp's have left in the last couple of weeks oh yeah and one president.

At least they had the balls to make a statement. You can't even click support on an email link.

But please tell us about the things they are doing right and how you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

 

[T-1GUY]

Walking around in a clueless stupor... Where did I leave my teeth

 

[gutshotdraw]

I am thinking about the "no confidence" vote. I think there are several things CMH does wrong, but some things they do right. If you think it will do some good, I will vote for it. Not as just a symbolic thing to embarrass Warren.

It will do some good. Unless and until Hansell is GONE, this entire operation is at risk.

As Diesel pointed out, there is virtually NOTHING our CEO has done right. If Bill's departure didn't tell you all you need to know about where the problem is, you aren't paying attention.

 

[G4dude]

Please for the love of god list what they are doing right! I would love to hear your list.

Dear god man get some balls. Have you noticed how many vp's have left in the last couple of weeks oh yeah and one president.

At least they had the balls to make a statement. You can't even click support on an email link.

But please tell us about the things they are doing right and how you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

The new planes seem to be a good fit for our operation. The FAA gives us very high marks for our safety and maintenance. The metrics we constantly track are a good thing, although we all have problems with the separation of various department functions as though they are each assembling different mechanical parts to a car or something. I still am getting contented feedback from our owners. Warren treats us better than any other investor entity would, because he feels NJA has a beneficial synergy with his other holdings.

 

[Diesel]

The new planes seem to be a good fit for our operation. The FAA gives us very high marks for our safety and maintenance. The metrics we constantly track are a good thing, although we all have problems with the separation of various department functions as though they are each assembling different mechanical parts to a car or something. I still am getting contented feedback from our owners. Warren treats us better than any other investor entity would, because he feels NJA has a beneficial synergy with his other holdings.

All i can think of reading this is this.

Sorry can't attach pictures here.

 

[Some guy]

The new planes seem to be a good fit for our operation. The FAA gives us very high marks for our safety and maintenance. The metrics we constantly track are a good thing, although we all have problems with the separation of various department functions as though they are each assembling different mechanical parts to a car or something. I still am getting contented feedback from our owners. Warren treats us better than any other investor entity would, because he feels NJA has a beneficial synergy with his other holdings.

Don't forget the CMH FSDO is the most corrupt per the FAA employee friend who knows a guy who may or may not frequent this board. That in itself negates the good safety and maintenance reputation that 95% of our pilots think we have. It doesn't sound like you're aware of all the pencil whipping that goes on in the maintenance world. How dare you spread rumors of good safety and maintenance records.

SG

 

[G4dude]

Don't forget the CMH FSDO is the most corrupt per the FAA employee friend who knows a guy who may or may not frequent this board. That in itself negates the good safety and maintenance reputation that 95% of our pilots think we have. It doesn't sound like you're aware of all the pencil whipping that goes on in the maintenance world. How dare you spread rumors of good safety and maintenance records.

SG

I know! How dare I talk about what my colleagues in the "Guffstream" say, and how dare I relate my own experiences! I must be either sarcastic or ignorant!

 

[G4dude]

All i can think of reading this is this.

Sorry can't attach pictures here.

You disagree with alll I said in that post? Even the bad stuff?

 

[Diesel]

You disagree with alll I said in that post? Even the bad stuff?

Yes all you've said in your post is wrong.

Owners are content. Ha!!

You've been wrong every step of the way and you've been proven wrong time and time again.

You ready for Omaha? Got your walking shoes ready? Tickets are still cheap from your base and a bunch of other vp's and presidents have already put on their walking shoes.

When are you going to put on yours?

 

[Diesel]

Don't forget the CMH FSDO is the most corrupt per the FAA employee friend who knows a guy who may or may not frequent this board. That in itself negates the good safety and maintenance reputation that 95% of our pilots think we have. It doesn't sound like you're aware of all the pencil whipping that goes on in the maintenance world. How dare you spread rumors of good safety and maintenance records.



SG

Trust me there is no way 95% of pilots think that. You guys might do a great job in cmh but the vendors on the road are a different story.

We are in a very precious tipping point with the FAA right now.....