G4dude wants to scab thread.

[Diesel]

Not only yes but hell yes.

Life is about choices.

Post your wanting to scab on the majors board. I even started a thread for you. See what those pilots think.

 

[gunfyter]

Do you agree with the way union people act in this regard?

Crossing the line is like Fredo selling out Michael because Johnny Ola told him there was something in it for him. Never take sides against the family.

 

[Diesel]

You won't ever see him post in this thread.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=157305

 

[G4dude]

You won't ever see him post in this thread.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=157305

Sorry, I just saw it. I, ladies and gentlemen, have posted there. And magnificently too.

 

[ultrarunner]

Hard to believe Netjetwife hasn't chimed in.....has she been muzzled?

 

[realityman]

Hard to believe Netjetwife hasn't chimed in.....has she been muzzled?

I very much enjoyed her support of our union. Seems like she understood how this all works very well.

Unfortunately, her husband turned out to be one of the single biggest traitors our union has seen since NJA has had a union, going back decades to the very beginning. He and three others almost single-handedly destroyed everything we had worked for. If you had to find someone who could be held in more contempt than a scab, her husband was one of four that fit the position.

Luckily we recovered, otherwise you'd be reading thread after thread on here about how the company was walking all over us.

Because of him, I think she'd have zero credibility here, or on any other message board. She's smart enough to know that and stays away.

 

[G4dude]

I very much enjoyed her support of our union. Seems like she understood how this all works very well.

Unfortunately, her husband turned out to be one of the single biggest traitors our union has seen since NJA has had a union, going back decades to the very beginning. He and three others almost single-handedly destroyed everything we had worked for. If you had to find someone who could be held in more contempt than a scab, her husband was one of four that fit the position.

Luckily we recovered, otherwise you'd be reading thread after thread on here about how the company was walking all over us.

Because of him, I think she'd have zero credibility here, or on any other message board. She's smart enough to know that and stays away.

I was just thinking of her! She was a True Believer, for sure. What on earth did her husband do?

 

[gutshotdraw]

I was just thinking of her! She was a True Believer, for sure. What on earth did her husband do?

I guess you really haven't been paying attention.

:erm:

 

[ghostrider64]

I guess you really haven't been paying attention.

:erm:

He never will, until his life is directly affected. Because he cares about no one other than himself, as all scab want to bes do.

 

[G4dude]

He never will, until his life is directly affected. Because he cares about no one other than himself, as all scab want to bes do.

I am a terrible person.

 

[G4dude]

I guess you really haven't been paying attention.

:erm:

So what did he do?

 

[gutshotdraw]

So what did he do?

Sigh....


He's one of four people that, according to some, tried to "destroy" the union....

What event occurred within the past three years, instigated by four people, that caused a gigantic stir in NJASAP land?

Hello, McFly?

Are you bad at math, too?

 

[G4dude]

Sigh....


He's one of four people that, according to some, tried to "destroy" the union....

What event occurred within the past three years, instigated by four people, that caused a gigantic stir in NJASAP land?

Hello, McFly?

Are you bad at math, too?

My guess is the insurrection against Luthi.

 

[Diesel]

My guess is the insurrection against Luthi.

I just love how informed you are.

Seriously I've never seen someone so clueless but yet so hell bent on destroying the ability for us to get a new contract.

When will be long enough that you are finally be fed up?

 

[SCT]

"Hard to believe Netjetwife hasn't chimed in.....has she been muzzled?"

Wonder if she still has those dumb ass boots......

 

[G4dude]

I just love how informed you are.

Seriously I've never seen someone so clueless but yet so hell bent on destroying the ability for us to get a new contract.

When will be long enough that you are finally be fed up?

I pay my dues and try to ignore the union. I did support the ousting of Luthi, of course.

 

[Diesel]

I pay my dues and try to ignore the union. I did support the ousting of Luthi, of course.

Ahhhh so finally we are getting to the nuts of it all. It took long enough. Guys like you are so predictable.

You pay your dues. You ignore the union. You expect them to be there for you though when you have an issue. You're not willing to do anything to further the union, the contract, or your own career.

Basically you're just running out the clock.

Thanks for all the support from the rest of us.

 

[livin'thesim]

G4 Dude-

If you use the opportunity to cross the line to benefit yourself while at the same time allowing others to sacrifice themselves to pressure the company then you are a traitor.

And I say that as a full-on conservative with a pro-business background.

Unions have screwed up a lot of things in the US, and I am NO FAN of several organized labor groups.

BUT - I am an union pilot, and by taking that position, I must and will honor the agreement we are all part of. If I want to be anti-union, then I should quit my ALPA carrier and work for someone else.

And so should you. The scab mentality is one of cowardice, and it is the thinking of a boy, not a man.

 

[livin'thesim]

Ahhhh so finally we are getting to the nuts of it all. It took long enough. Guys like you are so predictable.

You pay your dues. You ignore the union. You expect them to be there for you though when you have an issue. You're not willing to do anything to further the union, the contract, or your own career.

Basically you're just running out the clock.

Thanks for all the support from the rest of us.

There are always a few POWs in the camp who seem to be getting bigger meals and who get the more pleasant work assignments.

"Me first" is their credo. Perhaps more correctly "Me only".

This is a child-mind attitude that is incapable of seeing the sacrifices others have made, because it does not want to, otherwise they would have to change.

Reminds me of the people who spat at our soldiers coming back from vietnam. Too weak to serve, so instead let's demonize the soldiers so we feel better about ourselves.

 

[G4dude]

G4 Dude-

If you use the opportunity to cross the line to benefit yourself while at the same time allowing others to sacrifice themselves to pressure the company then you are a traitor.

And I say that as a full-on conservative with a pro-business background.

Unions have screwed up a lot of things in the US, and I am NO FAN of several organized labor groups.

BUT - I am an union pilot, and by taking that position, I must and will honor the agreement we are all part of. If I want to be anti-union, then I should quit my ALPA carrier and work for someone else.

And so should you. The scab mentality is one of cowardice, and it is the thinking of a boy, not a man.

I am not planning to scab.

 

[Diesel]

I am not planning to scab.

Nobody believes that at this point.

You have defended scabs at every point.

You're enjoying playing with the words. Good for you at least you're doing something.

See you in Omaha.

 

[G4dude]

Nobody believes that at this point.

You have defended scabs at every point.

You're enjoying playing with the words. Good for you at least you're doing something.

See you in Omaha.

Go f!ck yourself.

 

[Hawkered]

Go f!ck yourself.

Really professional!!

 

[PCL_128]

Go f!ck yourself.

There's the real G4dude! Thought so.

 

[Diesel]

Go f!ck yourself.

So when this is what you're reduced to in an argument, you've lost.

Of course the rest of us already knew this long before this point.

 

[fischman]

Go f!ck yourself.

Wow...

Geez man... This is how you know you've lost an argument.

 

[Diesel]

Wow...

Geez man... This is how you know you've lost an argument.

Silence for days.

I'll see him on the road and ask him why he won't return.

 

[ghostrider64]

He's not good for the industry or our union. Ask him to participate, and he devolves into nothing. I'll save him a sign in Omaha, and if he fails to show, which is a certainty, I'll carry the load for him...

 

[Diesel]

He's not good for the industry or our union. Ask him to participate, and he devolves into nothing. I'll save him a sign in Omaha, and if he fails to show, which is a certainty, I'll carry the load for him...

We all will carry the load for him. He will live in ignorance and ensure that his little world is secure.. All the while blaming those big bad unions and never understanding that he could have helped secure the future.

As usually I'm willing to find a trip for him and his wife to travel to Omaha and support his fellow brothers and sisters instead of disparaging them on message boards talking broadly about a subject he hasn't the smallest clue about.

 

[niners]

Do you agree with the way union people act in this regard?

I don't think it matters if you agree with the way union members act in this regard or not. This is the way it is. I am at an airline that is in the same situation as Netjets right now. We just recently had a strike vote that passed overwhelmingly. We have a few scabs on the seniority list (even one from the Eastern days). He catches HELL every day!!! I was on the hiring board at this airline and I can tell you that most, if not all hiring boards, will not hire a scab because the fight they will have with their own pilot group is not worth it. This is something else to take into consideration. If god for bid something ever happened to Netjets, where would you find another flying job? If you do decide to cross, you WILL be on that list forever. The Eastern scab I spoke of earlier decide to join the fight this time, but he is still and always will be a scab regardless if he walks with us or not. Will it be worth the hell you will receive from your fellow line pilots for the rest of your career? Now I am not the biggest union supporter out there, but I have every intention of walking with my fellow line pilots if it ever gets that far. Think long and hard about the decision you have to make!