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DoinTime said:
Does everyone at GøJets speak such broken english you scum sucking douchbag?
Come on guys, it's hard to type accurately while you are being pounded in the a$$ and being teabagged at the same time. It's too bad they all enjoy it so much.
PBR
 
We don't have to lower ourselves to G0 Jet levels of maturity and professionalism.......but I can understand the occasional slipup - I am guilty of this myself.

Scumbags
 
Nobody is rubbing salt in the wound of TSA pilots. You should have known that management was going to start G0Jets without you accepting their offer. Common sense then would lead you to believe that you should have taken the deal and then did a strike when that contract expired.

As far as finding another job...I know many that have left other regionals to start over at good places, Captains included.

I'm just tired of hearing that G0jet pilots are scabs...I don't like them, or agree with them, but they are not scabs. Yeah they took your jobs, but guess what...TSA took jobs from Air Willy, SkyWest, Eagle, do you see me on here calling TSA pilots scabs? Oh I almost forgot how happy everybody there got when you found out you might be getting ExpressJet's flying...Trans States pilots...does that make you scabs? Because at one time the majority of the routes you fly belonged to other people, HK just underbid them.

-out
 
BigLebowski said:
I'm just tired of hearing that G0jet pilots are scabs...I don't like them, or agree with them, but they are not scabs. Yeah they took your jobs, but guess what...TSA took jobs from Air Willy, SkyWest, Eagle, do you see me on here calling TSA pilots scabs? Oh I almost forgot how happy everybody there got when you found out you might be getting ExpressJet's flying...Trans States pilots...does that make you scabs? Because at one time the majority of the routes you fly belonged to other people, HK just underbid them.

-out


No, TSA did not nor where they created exclusively to take Whiskey's flying or anyone else's. It was management moves and how the business works. But when you know damn good and well what’s going on there and then go and facilitate it, the word scab fits pretty well.


Too many of you guys sit back and cry about the proverbial "Race to the Bottom," but when a pilot group actively fights it, they get trashed for it. Unbelievable.
 
Big Lebowski........."Oh I almost forgot how happy everybody there got when you found out you might be getting ExpressJet's flying...Trans States pilots...does that make you scabs?"

I call BS on this one........everybody here were NOT salivating at the mouth for that flying.
 
Turkey Shoot said:
No, TSA did not nor where they created exclusively to take Whiskey's flying or anyone else's. It was management moves and how the business works. But when you know dang good and well what’s going on there and then go and facilitate it, the word scab fits pretty well.


Too many of you guys sit back and cry about the proverbial "Race to the Bottom," but when a pilot group actively fights it, they get trashed for it. Unbelievable.

No business in America is created with the idea of taking people's jobs...the whole idea is to bring a better service to customers....capture the market share by doing the same job better and possibly at a bit of a reduced cost....its called Free Market Interprise. You dont like it......than move to a Communist country. If not, than quit being such a hipocrit and shut your mouth.

All the crying in the world isnt going to change the fact that this is the greatest country in the world and if a guy wants to buy some airplanes and earn a livliehood as well as employ several hundred workers than he is doing a great service. By the way, he can have who the hell ever he wants to fly HIS airplanes. YOU didnt buy them!!!!!
 
Shrek said:
Big Lebowski........."Oh I almost forgot how happy everybody there got when you found out you might be getting ExpressJet's flying...Trans States pilots...does that make you scabs?"

I call BS on this one........everybody here were NOT salivating at the mouth for that flying.

Than why would you be salivating for the 15 airplanes that we have....I think your full of BS.
 
rsspilot said:
Than why would you be salivating for the 15 airplanes that we have....I think your full of BS.

I believe his point, scab, was that nobody at TSA wanted to see Expressjet lose that flying, and everybody was happy to hear that they were going to keep the jets.

There is a feeling of brotherhood in a lot of the airline industry that you will be missing out on.
 
BigLebowski said:
TSA took jobs from Air Willy, SkyWest, Eagle, do you see me on here calling TSA pilots scabs?

Ok, I can understand that calling GJ pilots "scabs" is -almost- a stretch, but this is a ridiculous comparison and I assume you know it.

Pleeease don't compare one company underbidding another with one company starting a whipsaw alter ego flying group in order to circumvent a CBA. There is no comparison there.

I'll grant you that there is a difference between someone crossing a picket line and someone going to work for GJ, but the impact they have is very similar and in the long run it could be just as destructive to the pilots at TSA and to the industry.
 
johndt said:
Ok, I can understand that calling GJ pilots "scabs" is -almost- a stretch, but this is a ridiculous comparison and I assume you know it.

Pleeease don't compare one company underbidding another with one company starting a whipsaw alter ego flying group in order to circumvent a CBA. There is no comparison there.

I'll grant you that there is a difference between someone crossing a picket line and someone going to work for GJ, but the impact they have is very similar and in the long run it could be just as destructive to the pilots at TSA and to the industry.

It's not "almost" a stretch... It's just not a fact. This is a cloud a ambiguity you've created for yourself.

And you said it perfectly when you said not to compare companies' underbidding each other with one company starting a whipsaw. The "company" has done you wrong and that is exactly who your anger should be focused at. HK has always been a snake oil salesman and TSA has always been an absolute stink hole. So how you all were surprised by the creation of GJs is a mystery to me and many others. Perhaps that will be how this thing gets righted ? Do you think that the GJ pilots will have it any better over time ? I doubt it. But then again maybe they have the same motivation to work for that rat as the TSA pilots did. Put up with it, gain your experience, and leave.

This whole situation baffles me on so many levels it is hard to quantify in a single post.
 
Turkey Shoot said:
No, TSA did not nor where they created exclusively to take Whiskey's flying or anyone else's. It was management moves and how the business works. But when you know dang good and well what’s going on there and then go and facilitate it, the word scab fits pretty well.


Too many of you guys sit back and cry about the proverbial "Race to the Bottom," but when a pilot group actively fights it, they get trashed for it. Unbelievable.

I agree with you guys and I feel for you guys. But it does not change the fact that G0Jet pilots are not scabs.

I support you guys, and wish you guys could shut that rat's nest down...but unfortunately we all need a job, just like the G0Jet pilots.

Everybody there needs to leave.
 
BigLebowski said:
I agree with you guys and I feel for you guys. But it does not change the fact that G0Jet pilots are not scabs.

I support you guys, and wish you guys could shut that rat's nest down...but unfortunately we all need a job, just like the G0Jet pilots.

Everybody there needs to leave.

Gayjet pilots could have accepted another job instead of a whipsaw alterego.
 
h25b said:
This whole situation baffles me on so many levels it is hard to quantify in a single post.

Your attitude is what baffles me.

How can you be so smug and cavalier towards people, some of who have worked for nearly twenty years at one company, through a great deal of adversity, only to find all that hard work being stepped on not only by their company, but by a few fellow pilots.

Oh, but according to people like you, the tsa pilots are the bad guys. Not one post from you condemning scumbags that would join an alter ego whipsaw carrier. NOT ONE.
 
BigLebowski said:
I agree with you guys and I feel for you guys. But it does not change the fact that G0Jet pilots are not scabs.

I support you guys, and wish you guys could shut that rat's nest down...but unfortunately we all need a job, just like the G0Jet pilots.

Everybody there needs to leave.

Thanks for your support and concern.
But, with all due respect, the "we all need a job" statement as a cover for joining the alter ego whipsaw g0jet, well, lets just say I strongly disagree.
 
rsspilot said:
Than why would you be salivating for the 15 airplanes that we have....I think your full of BS.

I don't want the POS CRJ 700 or 900............I want to keep TSA JOBS you idiot. Not HOLDING jobs......the real airline you spiky haired punk. GET A LIFE.
 
I don't want to sound like a broken record but refer to my post on page six when some dingleberry requested that I learn the definition of Scab. IMO its pretty cut and dry. THEY ARE SCABS!

rsspilot said:
No business in America is created with the idea of taking people's jobs...the whole idea is to bring a better service to customers....capture the market share by doing the same job better and possibly at a bit of a reduced cost....its called Free Market Interprise. You dont like it......than move to a Communist country. If not, than quit being such a hipocrit and shut your mouth.

I understand Free Market Enterprise but do you really call UAL's actions bringing better service to customers. Look at the Aspen Market now, those people are pi$$ed.
 
Smarta$$ said:
Gayjet pilots could have accepted another job instead of a whipsaw alterego.

Accept another job????? What kinda idiot are you? Nobody in their right mind turns down a jet job for industry average wages just because a bunch of crybabies cant handle the fact that they made the wrong decision.....be men and live with your choice.
 
IdRtherBsailing said:
I don't want to sound like a broken record but refer to my post on page six when some dingleberry requested that I learn the definition of Scab. IMO its pretty cut and dry. THEY ARE SCABS!



I understand Free Market Enterprise but do you really call UAL's actions bringing better service to customers. Look at the Aspen Market now, those people are pi$$ed.

Yeah your right, We all feel for the Billionaires in Aspen....they are the segment of society that always gets screwed.
 
rsspilot said:
Accept another job????? What kinda idiot are you? Nobody in their right mind turns down a jet job for industry average wages just because a bunch of crybabies cant handle the fact that they made the wrong decision.....be men and live with your choice.

Scheduled block time only is NOT industry average compensation.

And guess what - according to Airline Pilot Central your pay is NOT industry average and is lower than 3 or 4 airlines' 50 seat rates.
 

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