From Apaad We Won!!

[CitationUltra]

Senate passed HR 4343 by unanimous consent this evening at roughly 2145.

When Bush signs it, it's law.

Hayes, etc. will present it to White House tomorrow AM to try to get this signed
ASAP.

More info tomorrow.

Congratulations on a job well done, with a very long overdue result.

Your efforts will certainly be appreciate by all those who will realize at least a partial relief from this discriminatory federal policy.

 

[PCL_128]

There's another option:

4. Pocket veto - the President has 10 days to sign the bill into law. If he doesn't sign it within those 10 days and Congress is still in session, then the bill automatically becomes law. If he doesn't sign the bill, and Congress adjourns during those 10 days, then the bill does not become law and is effectively vetoed. I'm not sure if Congress is going to adjourn by the 22nd, but if it does without the President's signature, then the bill becomes void. At least, that is my understanding.

 

[CitationUltra]

Guess what's APAAD doing 4 years from now?...you got it, age 70 retirement age change campaign. Wait and see these baby boomers always get what hey want.

You're right--65 is as discriminatory as 60, barring any credible evidence that another arbitrary age limitation should be imposed. There has certainly been no such evidence brought forth during this controversy.

 

[CitationUltra]

Oh, it'll be a different story then.

 

[CitationUltra]

There's another option:

4. Pocket veto - the President has 10 days to sign the bill into law. If he doesn't sign it within those 10 days and Congress is still in session, then the bill automatically becomes law. If he doesn't sign the bill, and Congress adjourns during those 10 days, then the bill does not become law and is effectively vetoed. I'm not sure if Congress is going to adjourn by the 22nd, but if it does without the President's signature, then the bill becomes void. At least, that is my understanding.

That may be your understanding, but to the so-called "pocket veto" is rarely used, and then only in cases where there is clearly a desire or motive to quash a legislative measure. There is no indication whatsoever in this case that the president does not want or does not intend to sign the bill into law.

 

[PCL_128]

I never said that there was such an indication, merely that there was another option. I actually expect the President to sign this, unfortunately.

 

[Spooky 2]

No way I am going to die at the controls.....I am punching out early...what good is life if you can't live it.

You don't look like an airline pilot anyway so WTF do you care?

 

[Superpilot92]

You don't look like an airline pilot anyway so WTF do you care?

Really, please tell us all how you can tell who "LOOKS" like a airline pilot by their posts!! Thanks for your generous post contribution....

 

[El Pobre]

Well, one thing is for sure, APAAD certainly proves that bitching on a message board gets you nothing, but working the halls of congress gets things done.

Even though I am opposed to age-60, I congratulate the APAAD guys...you worked well.

Now, that being said, I want to thank Praterboy for really sticking it to the next generation of pilots....I will never send a penny to ALPA PAC, ALPA Relief or ALPA scholarship or any other thing related to ALPA. If it were not for agency shop, ALPA wouldn't see a dime of my salary either. What a crappy organization.

At least with a scab you know where you stand...Prater is worse than a SCAB!

Good day all, and again, Congrats to the APAAD guys you are smart.

 

[El Pobre]

Well, one thing is for sure, APAAD certainly proves that bitching on a message board gets you nothing, but working the halls of congress gets things done.

Even though I am opposed to age-60, I congratulate the APAAD guys...you worked well.

Now, that being said, I want to thank Praterboy for really sticking it to the next generation of pilots....I will never send a penny to ALPA PAC, ALPA Relief or ALPA scholarship or any other thing related to ALPA. If it were not for agency shop, ALPA wouldn't see a dime of my salary either. What a crappy organization.

At least with a scab you know where you stand...Prater is worse than a SCAB!

Good day all, and again, Congrats to the APAAD guys you are smart.

 

[Patriot328]

Good day all, and again, Congrats to the APAAD guys you are smart.

The minority has outmaneuvered the majority.. Good show, APAAD...

I will gladly vote to decertify ALPA at my carrier. I would rather go it alone with a stand alone union than be lied to by the union I pay to watch over my career progression.


If you are in your early 30s and work at "legacy" carrier, you just lost over $500,000 today. Congrats. You can make it up, however. If you fly past 60, you'll make up that extra half million by age 63... Three years more work for free, or 3 years of docked salary and be out by 60, however you want to look at it. Enjoy.

 

[Spooky 2]

Really, please tell us all how you can tell who "LOOKS" like a airline pilot by their posts!! Thanks for your generous post contribution....

Hey Super pilot....you don't look like one either, just another mom and dad grad school pilot that wants to be an airline pilot. His profile did not appear to have any airline DNA in it. Get over it, nothing here to see...just move on now.

 

[CitationUltra]

I never said that there was such an indication, merely that there was another option. I actually expect the President to sign this, unfortunately.

He already did.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The minority has outmaneuvered the majority.. Good show, APAAD...

That is what happens when the majority are apathetic. Air Line Pilot Careers require responsibility on the owner of the career! Who owns your career?

I will gladly vote to decertify ALPA at my carrier. I would rather go it alone with a stand alone union than be lied to by the union I pay to watch over my career progression.

Let me guess you pay ALPA so they must provide a service to you?

It doesn't work that way! ALPA does a poor job and creates this service mentality. It needs to stop. But pilots also need to quit expecting ALPA to be thier Santa Claus....

Merry Christmas... your gift this year is the realization that your career is your responsibility and self government is via self.

 

[LeonPhelps]

That is what happens when the majority are apathetic. Air Line Pilot Careers require responsibility on the owner of the career! Who owns your career?



Let me guess you pay ALPA so they must provide a service to you?

It doesn't work that way! ALPA does a poor job and creates this service mentality. It needs to stop. But pilots also need to quit expecting ALPA to be thier Santa Claus....

Merry Christmas... your gift this year is the realization that your career is your responsibility and self government is via self.

You are one seriously condescending dude.