Clarification: NOT B19! But you took it as a compliment that you sounded like his wife. Why is that? Hubby has not been laid off; he is still there .... Where is "there" and what is his job?
Yes, we are currently on the fence and really trying to do research.... So what research have you done so far? You have discussed the situation with his fellow workers and their spouses, right? What did they tell you?
I have spoke to my husband regarding this, ... Does he want a contract that ensures the going rate and fair work rules or does he prefer intimidation and exploitation? Maybe it is just because it is the negotiation phase, but it seems to be more d@mning then beneficial. By your own admission, though, you are uninformed. A contract is being hammered out; it's not the pilots' fault that management is dragging their feet and trying to delay the inevitable. Hence the reasoning behind asking for boards or anything else that may be helpful to a newbie...... How long has your husband been "there"?
Call me naive, Your word, not mine. but I am genuinely trying to get insight from those that have been through this before, those with more knowledge. Not criticsm or ridicule. It must be noted that your first post was critical and ridiculing to Union supporters. So I would really appreciate how to better understand. Hhhmmm :erm: Looking back at when my husband was new to NJA, the problem was obvious. I began posting here to explain it to others, not the other way around. I am not asking for the details, just the references. I can do my own research in my own time, but I do need to know where to start and where to look. Try starting with an open mind and talk to the pilots fighting for a contract. Look at what Options pilots are paid compared to their peers at NJA and CS.
I thought Unions/Teamsters/Brotherhoods were supposed to help one another.... Yet when there is some one that sincerely wants help or insight they get a quick boot???? What Local is your husband a member of? Did he contact a Union leader with his request for help? If so, who and when? Did he post a question on the Union message board and get kicked off? This is not the best forum for Union questions but even here you have been given helpful advice so the boot accusation isn't warranted. I have a very difficult time understanding the logic of a "UNION" then, maybe my terminology differs from yours.......
The concept of a basic standard of fairness is only supported by those with integrity. You have to stand up to jerks like MS or he will walk all over you as he drags his golden parachute (provided in a contract, no less) off to the next pilot group he will damage with his unethical tactics.
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Judging by your husband the new hires aren't being given enough information regarding the Union, so I'll pass that on to my husband and he can notify the appropriate leaders. Naturally, they will have follow-up questions for your husband. Of course he'll be willing to talk with them so that they can make adjustments, right? BTW, I regularly get PMs here so this will be nothing new, and several pilots posting on this thread can verify that my husband has helped them. If you are "genuinely trying to get insight from those that have been through this before, those with more knowledge" then I should be hearing from you soon. NJW
