FLOPS Aircraft in MIA

[On Your Six]

It is flight ops that called... They said they were looking to fill the MIA base... I didn't know that they didn't have ac there that is why i was asking... why would u doubt it?

If I were you, I wouldn't go to FLOPS unless you are unemployed, broke and desparate. Otherwise, I would stay at your current job, apply to Netjets, Flexjet, Citationshares and Avantair - all have MIA/FLL domiciles and all respect their pilots a lot more than FLOPS. Just keep this mind: FLOPS has the worst workplace reputation in the industry (low pay, fire pilots at will, zero respect, etc.). Compare and contrast the fractionals for yourself:

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.info/airlines/fractional.html

Attrition has been high for a good reason. Serious changes will have to take place to right this ship - but don't expect any soon. And do yourself a huge favor and read the other thread (you may have to search for it) about the latest FLOPS newhire class - a pilot was fired during class. Good luck.

 

[flagshipper]

It just amazes me that even with every other thread being about how bad FLOPS sucks that every day some guy posts wondering about what kind of place it is to work at. I just cant figure out the reasoning. Also for the airline types they cannot grasp the basing system. In the fractional world no airplane is based in any one city. You will be airlining most of the time to an aircraft. Companies choose bases based on the airline prices, number of pilots, and regional alignment with flying activity. You are not being hired into a particular aircraft to fly out of a particular place. Sure the company may say 30 percent of our pilots are based west of the Mississippi but 40 percent of our flying is there so we need more guys out west. Good luck to the current FLOPS pilots and for the rest of you take a hint and stay away!!!

 

[guido411]

It still seems nobody has answered this poor chap's question. . .

Most assuredly, unless they are hiring for a managed aircraft (which they would have told you about) you would be placed in a Beechjet.

Now use the other posts that litter this board about the QOL of Flops and make an EDUCATED decision to STAY AWAY!

 

[Dingo221]

So far I have only heard that we are only looking for pilots in ATL, LAS and DEN.
I have not received anycompany E mails concerning any positions in MIA for a possible plane in management !

 

[Ticker]

FLOPS new owner HIG Capital is headquartered in Miami. Maybe they want a number of jets always available for their use.

I'll bet you're right. Anyone currently flying for options will not be offered the "managed" slots from what I've heard. I forgot about the managed airplane thing they were exploring.

Frac Cap is "Nutz On" in his observation...in more ways than one I guess :nuts:

 

[Whoosh!]

FLOPS is going nowhere but down

 

[netjetwife]

It doesn't have to be that way. Management can settle the contract dispute any time by offering a realistic, professional compensation package and fair work rules. That's all it takes for the focus to shift to building the company instead of tearing down the morale of its front line workforce.

In the meantime, from a family perspective, I agree with the notion of avoiding Options if you're looking for a job. There's too much financial uncertainty there until the pilots win a contract. A family has to be able to plan their future around a known income.

Best Wishes to Flt Ops pilots whose cause is entirely justified! Dig in your heels!
NJW

 

[B19 Flyer]

........ There's too much financial uncertainty there until the pilots win a contract. NJW

Freudian slip perhaps?

Note that you state that it's not the union that wins a contract, it's the pilots that win a contract.

It's not about fairness or doing what is right, is it NJW?

No, with a union it's all about winning and losing.

If the pilots WIN A CONTRACT, then all will be fine and there will be financial certainty.

If they LOSE, then the union will tear the company to shreds and create financial uncertainty for the everybody including pilots, non-pilot employees and customers.

That's the union way.

 

[dime line]

FLOPS is going nowhere but down

Seeems like management is speeding up the process!

 

[dime line]

Freudian slip perhaps?

Note that you state that it's not the union that wins a contract, it's the pilots that win a contract.

It's not about fairness or doing what is right, is it NJW? Since when is it about fair? Are you being fair Bob with the pilot group? i don't think so

No, with a Company it's all about winning

If the Company Defeates A CONTRACT, then all will be fine and there will be financial certainty.

If they LOSE, then the union will tear the company to shreds and create financial uncertainty for the everybody including pilots, non-pilot employees and customers. The company already does enough to piss off owners, so you and your goons are already "creating financial uncertainty

That's the Company way.

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