Flight Opts pilot arrested

[hawkercpt]

aaannnnnndddd....

No matter the outcome, I thinks it's safe to say his professional pilot days are over with reputable company's.

Flight Options is a reputable company?

 

[gray eagle]

hawkeracpt, If, in your mind, Flight Options is not a reputable company, why do you continue your employment with Flight Options? Certainly there are other employment opportunities in your area of expertise with a company that meets your definition of reputalbe.

 

[El Chupacabra]

... I agree with your assessment if the sex did actually occur. Regardless of the circumstances, that WOULD make him a scumbag in MY opinion. I have 2 daughters, and if it were one of mine, I'd cut his b*lls off, regardless of the circumstances.....

Better get your machete out. Unless the press fabricated it. The sex happeneded because he claims it was consensual. What was consensual if not sex in the stairwell?

Bottom line for the first time in history I have something to agree with FAcFriend on. He had sex in the stairwell with a minor... I do not care if he thought it was consensual or how old he thought she is. Turns out he was wrong.

 

[BenderGonzales]

16 is the age of consent in Georgia.

Rape and sexual battery are one thing. If it is proven that he has committed those attrocities, then he should be punished.

If she was simply a slut and a single man took advantage of the opportunity, then that is another story.

If that's the case he should be fired for doing it in public and in uniform, but the criminal charges should be dropped.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Actually I do not care what the age of consent is in Georgia.

She said she did not consent and that is good enough for me. Fry him.


Eh but you can't go by me. I am one of those intolerant people who believe sex should be only between a man and a woman, ... who are married... to each other.

Fornication with a minor in a stairwell at a major airport... in a pilot's uniform.

Sick of Liberals blaming the Victim.

 

[Ticker]

He is screwed, from what I heard is that options already took him off of their list of pilots, he is fired from what I was told, and in terms of guilty, if he is, he will have a felony record for life, that will prevent him from ever getting a security badge or passing a background check, he could even end up on the do not fly list, but that would be worse case, but at the least, he will never be able to pass a background check which will prevent him from working for a 135/121 operator, I guess if he gets to keep his license, he can get a 91 job since they don't require those kinds of checks, but I am not sure if a felony for rape will keep you from losing your license?

One of the stipulations for being elligible for an ATP certificate requires the applicant "be of good moral character". That ought to take care of his ATP weather he's guilty or not since he in essence already admited to some sort of "act". We'll see I guess. There's still plenty he could do with just a comm/me though.

 

[Rook]

Never has the phrase "get a room" been more appropriate.

 

[Sameold]

I am kinda surprised. If the girl who was 16 (of consensual age) may have entrapped this pilot by lying about her age and leading him into a sexual experience, only to be upset after the fact, maybe no pillow-talk, so she told police she was raped. OR As they deplaned he walked slowly while talking to her. They hit the stairs then bam he snatched her around the corner, tossed the baggage, kept her quiet, avoided sight, ripped off her clothes and nailed her.

So which account could be more accurate? I am not judge and jury.

I want to know what you folks think about "company time." It was brought up that this happened on "company time" so fire him. So my question is, what other actions should warrant getting fired during company time and demonstrate lack of morale character.

Some questionable events on "Company Time"
Ever ordered porn on an overnight? (those receipts are easy to obtain by the company)
Get Laid?
Get drunk?
Gone to a strip club?
and many others....
What do you think?

 

[El Chupacabra]

She says she did not consent.

Fine ... show me the Notarized Consent Form/letter. Sure he kept a copy right? Verbal consent is not acceptable.

Otherwise... Off with his head.

 

[PCL_128]

She says she did not consent.

Fine ... show me the Notarized Consent Form/letter.

Otherwise... Off with his head.

Absolutely absurd. This is what is wrong with the current system. "She says he raped her. That's good enough for me, to hell with evidence! String him up!"

 

[El Chupacabra]

What is absurd is the attitude that tolerates this behavior.

At 16 you cannot sell her cigarrettes or even a beer. But you can do her in the stairway at an airport?

That is absurd.

 

[PCL_128]

What is absurd is the attitude that tolerates this behavior.

At 16 you cannot sell her cigarrettes or even a beer. But you can do her in the stairway at an airport?

That is absurd.

She was of legal age in the state of Georgia. As long as this was consensual, then he has not committed any crime in this state.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Bring me the notarized consent form.

Otherwise she says this is not the case. Case closed.

 

[BenderGonzales]

Complain to the Georgia legislature. In the meantime if she decides she wants to solicit a dirty sanchez from this guy on the steps of the State Capital -- there's very little they can say about this!

He was NOT charged with statutory rape. He was charged with aggravated sexual assault.

This is still America (and as a serviceman I assume that has some importance to you) and he has a right to a fair trial.

Personally I think the odds are better than average that she's full of crap. But lets be honest -- unless these two were married in the house of God, it seems like you would have a problem with ANY male or female consumating their "friendship".

Sounds like you're more irritated with premarital sex than you are actually figuring out what happened. Don't worry. Maybe Homeland Security can strip us of THOSE liberties as well. (sarcasm - relax)

 

[PCL_128]

Bring me the notarized consent form.

Otherwise she says this is not the case. Case closed.

As I said, absolutely absurd. Her word is not more reliable than his. It's "he said, she said" unless there is other evidence. From what I've heard, there was no witness to the event, so I find her word no more reliable than his.

 

[jehtplane]

I've seen it many times and go up and down those stairwells frequently, but I still don't see how he could have raped a girl in one of those stairwells. There's people going up and down those stairs continually.

If they are boarding a flight, yes. If not then there are not people going continously and you can also go underneath the stairwell, They are not all the same at every gate!

 

[FAcFriend]

16 is the age of consent in Georgia.

Rape and sexual battery are one thing. If it is proven that he has committed those attrocities, then he should be punished.

If she was simply a slut and a single man took advantage of the opportunity, then that is another story.
QUOTE]

A 16 yo girl is NOT an opportunity.

 

[hawkercpt]

In due time...

hawkeracpt, If, in your mind, Flight Options is not a reputable company, why do you continue your employment with Flight Options? Certainly there are other employment opportunities in your area of expertise with a company that meets your definition of reputalbe.

indeed, in due time. For now it is a paycheck. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Bring me the notarized consent form.

Otherwise she says this is not the case. Case closed.

This is a crock. Way back when, a female friend of mine brought one of her friends to one of our fraternity parties. She hooked up with one of our pledges in the chapter room. The next day, she (or her family) called the sherriffs, who arrested the pledge for rape. She said he raped her. He said she didn't. We had no choice, under all the pressure from the school and other Greek houses to can him from the house. 3 days after the fact, she then confesses that she made it up, because her father found out (I don't know how) that she'd had sex. That pledge had the same first name as me. Not only was his life screwed because of her, but my life was made difficult as well - "Johnny the Alpha Beta was arrested for rape! Oh my god!!" "You're Johnny? What house? Alpha Beta? Ummm, I think I need to go wash my hair..."

The guy's an idiot. If he raped her, he should go to prison where he can experience it himself. But there is a chance he's telling the truth, that it was consensual. And like it or not, if 16 is the age of consent in Georgia and she said yes, it was consensual.

Innocent until proven guilty - remember those words? The media certainly doesn't.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Complain to the Georgia legislature. In the meantime if she decides she wants to solicit a dirty sanchez from this guy on the steps of the State Capital -- there's very little they can say about this!

He was NOT charged with statutory rape. He was charged with aggravated sexual assault.

This is still America (and as a serviceman I assume that has some importance to you) and he has a right to a fair trial.

Personally I think the odds are better than average that she's full of crap. But lets be honest -- unless these two were married in the house of God, it seems like you would have a problem with ANY male or female consumating their "friendship".

Sounds like you're more irritated with premarital sex than you are actually figuring out what happened. Don't worry. Maybe Homeland Security can strip us of THOSE liberties as well. (sarcasm - relax)

There is no constitutional right to pre-marital sex. =======================================
I don't give a crap if she is full of crap. As long as he had sex in the stairway with a 16 yr old ... unless she raped him.