Flex's Response?

[vette]

I was wondering if everything is going to be addressed by flexjet cab?

I see days off and money but what about 1st and last day start and finish, increased health costs, disturbed duty, per diem and/or hotel for dfw base in training.
Just wondering

 

[Flyingdog1]

Vette,

Call your cab rep, but I plan on bringing it up.

 

[FalconPilot69]

Not worth it.

 

[Semore Butts]

Falcon

Nothing from me, You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

 

[gipper6]

Falcon
You sir are a Walter Mitty. You are as clueless as they come but I'm sure I can find several pilots from FlexJet that would be happy to take you out to the shed and "educate you". I hope for your family's sake you develop better self-stewardship or this will be a terrible career choice for you. By the way - nice piston time!

 

[Diesel]

Falcon-

Here's an answer to your question. We netjet pilots stayed to fight and raise the bar to the industry.

We stayed we fought and we got what we wanted. We've moved one step up the ladder and we're still climbing. We are now going to enforce the contract the company agreed to.

Did we whine and complain? Maybe in your eyes. In our eyes and for those of us on the front line we were fighting for our families and yours.

 

[Necromonger]

Nice.

Cosmo- Yeah, You got me. You A__Man.:nuts:

Vette-There's only ONE way to get a complete contract vs. what we will probably get in little over a week. Just check the YES box and mail it in.

Flydog-Do we call one of you or all of y'all to get an issue on the table? Or maybe we should get a six sigma project started.

S-Butts-I'm sure that your glad you left when you did. Risky move, paid off. Good luck to ya.

Diesel- Congrats. And, keep on keepin' on. :beer:

Falcon- I'm glad I missed your post. It looks like you had to edit the darn thing. Don't be scared. We like hearing from all you BONEHEADS.uke:

Hey "NEWFLEX", where'd you go?

 

[cosmotheassman]

I bet you NEWFLEX got fired or told to stfu cause they knew who it was. Necro list out what you think we'll get from management--I'm being serious now!

 

[FalconPilot69]

Falcon- I'm glad I missed your post. It looks like you had to edit the darn thing. Don't be scared. We like hearing from all you BONEHEADS.uke:
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Necro, I essentially stated that if you hate it that bad then leave. And since I also proved my point that there are those here that are mental midgets, and have to launch personal attacks, I decided to remove my original post because it was just not worth it. I wonder though if those who are so anti company and pro union are posting on your blue belly? Either way, we will see some ones responses regarding the big meeting here I am sure.

Fly Safe.

 

[Semore Butts]

Thanks Necro

It was the right move for me.

I hope it works out for you, there are alot of great people at Flex.

 

[gipper6]

Diesel -
We at FlexJet owe you guys a tremendous thank you for elevating the industry standard. I pray that our company will do the right thing and at least match the new bar. Many of us came to FlexJet with thoughts of "Hanging our Hats Here", but I am scared to stay if they fall short of NJ or CS. We will have way too much attrition and coupled with the projected NJ hiring, SWA hiring and others we will be forced to charter or break contracts and lower the hiring minimums. Either way, if pilots like me are willing to leave Flex and start over what kind of message does it send to new hires? Our revolving door policy has remained fairly constant until now. This could have devasting effects on our business model. I know at least 17 pilots who have NJ applications and several are in the pool at SWA - talk about an exodus. I really want to stay here but may be logically forced to leave. We'll know in a week or so, but it seems most of the senior pilots have nothing good to say. Perhaps they have been burned too many times.

 

[gipper6]

Falcon69
Sounds you edited / backpeddled after blasting FlexJet pilots. You really should be careful how you say things - some of these guys are the best pilots I've ever flown with and many have heavy combat experience. As always comments are welcome but you lose credibility when, as an outsider, you try to join in our reindeer games.

 

[cosmotheassman]

Anyone want to speculate on why PBS has been off/on the last week or so? Could there be different options available soon???

 

[Necromonger]

Hhmmm.

I wonder what beaner is trying to soften us up for with his post on the BB. Perhaps he knows Flex's response lacks any substance, and will be just another show with smoke and mirrors. We've seen it all before.

Hopefully the new CAB members will make sure ALL of the issues are at least mentioned at the next meeting.

Read the post and give us your take on the tone. He is one of our long standing CAB members. He has his finger on the pulse of management. Who knows?

Not me.

 

[cosmotheassman]

Yeah I read that. Sounds like he knows something already. Doesn't sound good.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Diesel -
We at FlexJet owe you guys a tremendous thank you for elevating the industry standard. I pray that our company will do the right thing and at least match the new bar.

And if they do not then consider taking control of your own future with a Strong Union voice.

 

[twincessna]

If you read Ryans post about the PBS, he mentioned something about putting new rules in as handed down from up high. Don't know what we are getting now.

 

[hammer2]

Just wanted everybody know; it was a beautiful sunrise at 430 this morning. I was noticing this while I was teaching a new guy some things, who by the way was so happy and greatful for the opportunity flex had given him. While doing this I had a great spinach ommelete. Guys my pay check was huge, with the 3 days overtime, I can make more than the pilots at nja. I don't know why anybody would complain about this company. Why would you want to put them out of business by asking for so much. again be happy with where you are at or leave!! I do have to say my language was to strong the pilots at flex are not idiots, I apologize.

 

[Lear70]

Just wanted everybody know; it was a beautiful sunrise at 430 this morning. I was noticing this while I was teaching a new guy some things, who by the way was so happy and greatful for the opportunity flex had given him. While doing this I had a great spinach ommelete. Guys my pay check was huge, with the 3 days overtime, I can make more than the pilots at nja. I don't know why anybody would complain about this company. Why would you want to put them out of business by asking for so much. again be happy with where you are at or leave!!

This is the kind of thinking that has gotten the airlines to where they are.

Your paycheck WITH 3 DAYS OF OVERTIME is bigger than a NJA regular paycheck? There's something to brag about. You have to work twice as many days at work just to get the same paycheck?

Repeat after me: Pay and days off. Payanddaysoffpayanddaysoffpayanddaysoff...

Most of your coworkers want and DESERVE more money and more days off. Flexjet is 10 years behind on COLA increases (i.e. a pilot at Flex makes the same thing he/she could have made in an equivalent aircraft 10 years ago). You, my friend, are in the MINORITY.

Time for Flexjet to step up to the plate.

 

[Fozzy]

Hammer is what we would call a company tool. Looks like Flex has an A-team also.

 

[Necromonger]

Just wanted everybody know; it was a beautiful sunrise at 430 this morning. I was noticing this while I was teaching a new guy some things, who by the way was so happy and greatful for the opportunity flex had given him. While doing this I had a great spinach ommelete. Guys my pay check was huge, with the 3 days overtime, I can make more than the pilots at nja. I don't know why anybody would complain about this company. Why would you want to put them out of business by asking for so much. again be happy with where you are at or leave!! I do have to say my language was to strong the pilots at flex are not idiots, I apologize.

:laugh:

Tool doesn't even begin to descibe this moron. But, at least he's makin' me laugh.

Be kind to Hammer Time, 'cause he just doesn't have a clue.

KEEP POSTING, Hammer Time. Let us read just how stupid you really are.

What color is the sky in your world? Does the sun still orbit the earth in Hammerville?

By the way, Pay is not the only issue. Sure I could work 300 days a year and give myself a raise. But, I shouldn't have to, you idiot.

 

[cosmotheassman]

Oh come on necro, don't you want to be a company biatch like him? hehe

 

[CL300Pilot]

Just an observation..

Why is it that whenever someone posts his/her opinion about something, the side that disagrees goes on personal attacks? So you don't agree with him/her. So what? While I agree that working over time days does not constitute for a raise or better work days, it is just his/her opinion. If he/she is the majority at flex then you have something to worry about, if he/she is not, then you don't. It would appear to me that in reading BB, the company has made it's decision on what it is and is not going to do, which we are supposed to find out about next week, and all of this personal bantering and attacking is about as useless a pi#$ing in the wind. Again, just an obervation and opinion.

 

[BrnJetFuel]

Why is it that whenever someone posts his/her opinion about something, the side that disagrees goes on personal attacks?

Because that's just the way it is Moron!

 

[CL300Pilot]

Because that's just the way it is Moron!

Too quote the Bud Light commercials, "True....True"

 

[cosmotheassman]

If you piss downwind its no big deal...

 

[hammer2]

About 15 people who work at flex appear to be posting here. On this rotation alone I have talk to twice as many with no complaints, its just you who post here that are disgruntled, the rest of us are either moving on or are happy with flex. There is so few of you here I don't believe that there is any gripe at flex. Good Job crew members!

 

[Diesel]

Don't worry hammer only about 20 guys from NJA posts here.

We voted a TA down by 83 percent.
Shut down 284 and started 1108
scratched clawed and fought harder than the company could have ever imagined
got a new ta which was voted in by 83 percent
industry leading TA that got CS a raise

i won't even go into the work rules but i'll enjoy my 180 days a year of work.

 

[hammer2]

Goodnight everybody. I have another very early show, and I want to be well rested so I can do a good job for the company that takes good care of me and all of its employees. P.S. diesel we can't even get enough people intrested to even entertain a vote for a union.

 

[Diesel]

So i'm sure you got briefed as per part 91k with no grey areas for your early show. it's not a voluntary phone call at 10 hours.

We shut down at 1300 and they brief us for a 1000 show. They can't touch us till 1000.

Personally i think you're just posting flame bait.