Flex's Response?

[Necromonger]

Thanks Diesel. Yes, I took the bait hook in and sinker....

This H...Rammmer can't be for real. He's just throwin' fuel on the fire. NO ONE could be that clueless and out of touch.

Keep 'em commin' Rammer. We're glad to hear from ya, and we could always use a good laugh.:laugh:

-out

 

[Peter_Griffin]

Goodnight everybody. I have another very early show, and I want to be well rested so I can do a good job for the company that takes good care of me and all of its employees. P.S. diesel we can't even get enough people intrested to even entertain a vote for a union.

No offense but obviously with this and all your other posts you are severely out of touch with the pulse at flex. New cards will be sent out the first quarter of the year, so I guess we do have enough people interested to entertain a vote.

You say only 15 or so are on this board complaining -- true maybe -- but there's a lot of complaining going on BB -- far more than you give credit too.

As for your work week talking to dozens of crewmembers who love it at flex, I just simply can't believe you as 90% of anyone I come into contact with is pretty upset about the current situation and culture at flex. Maybe the people you come into contact with just realize you are a company stooge and agreeing with you is easier than arguing with you.

As for whether or not this new union vote will pass, I think it really all depends on what happens next week, but I am betting unless they match day for day and $ for $, a union will pass no problem this time around. A lot of us who voted no the last time (myself included) are feeling pretty burned and stupid right about now.

Look at the results of the new CAB election. Now tell me the company isn't heading more pro union... If you don't know what I'm talking about, there is a reason you're not in the know, so I won't explain it....

 

[gipper6]

Hammer - you've lost all credibility.

 

[hammer2]

Hey fellow flexjetters,
Love to sit and chat but I have to go out and fly. I don't know about you guys, but it feels good when I do what I can to help make Flex profitable, it feels like job security.

 

[hatetoadmitit]

I have still been hearing rumors about Flexjet firing people when they give their two week notice. Anybody know if there is any truth to the rumor?

 

[G100driver]

Hey fellow flexjetters,
Love to sit and chat but I have to go out and fly. I don't know about you guys, but it feels good when I do what I can to help make Flex profitable, it feels like job security.

I have still been hearing rumors about Flexjet firing people when they give their two week notice. Anybody know if there is any truth to the rumor?

Ah yes, it is starting all over again. Guys with a low number of posts suddenly posting dis-information on chat sites. Or coporate trolls trying to spread the "love."

What is next ... calling guys who cover Flex flights SCABS!

Gotta love it! Now that my friends, is entertainment!

 

[CL300Pilot]

I have still been hearing rumors about Flexjet firing people when they give their two week notice. Anybody know if there is any truth to the rumor?

hatetoadmitit, while I do not know if the rumor is true, I can tell you that Texas is an employment at will state which means you can be fired for the fact that they don't like your tie or for any other reason without cause. Having been in management prior to coming into aviation, I know that to let you go for no reason is costly to the company in that they have to pay you unemployement. I have worked for companies that took both ways with your rumor. Some, do to sensitivity issues would let you go on the spot, but were still required to fulfill your 2 weeks in the form of pay. Others gladly allowed you to fulfill your resignation.

Hope this helps.

 

[hammer2]

One more thing fellow Crewmembers,
Lets not forget to show M.M. & D.G. our appreciation for all the hard work they did this year. We know that they are the reason we have such a great job & QOL. You know a little holiday cheer.

 

[Necromonger]

One more thing fellow Crewmembers,
Lets not forget to show M.M. & D.G. our appreciation for all the hard work they did this year. We know that they are the reason we have such a great job & QOL. You know a little holiday cheer.

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Someone please wake me up.


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[hatetoadmitit]

I thought Hammer was going to bed for a 4:30 wake up?

What was I thinking, management doesn't need to be at the office untill 9:00!

 

[P3Steve]

Greetings all -- I've just read this entire thread and don't know what to make of it -- but here are my facts:

I am recently out of the Navy, 4000 hr P3 instructor pilot with dreams of a major airline job. My first call for an interview was two days ago with Flex -- i was pretty excited, and my interview is next Tues. If I pass that, i can expect a class as pretty quickly. all sounded rosy to me, until i read this thread.

is life at flex really that bad? should I pursue flex at this stage? or hold out for one of my dream options? (WN, CO, FEX, etc) -- still learning this business we love to hate - thanks all...

 

[Diesel]

Definetly hold out for your dream job. Why waste time at a fractional when DAL, NWA or AA is holding your seat.

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I'm thinking of applying to the navy but really want to hold out for my dream job in the air force. Why should i really have to stop at the navy?

sarcasm at it's best.

 

[miles otoole]

Greetings all -- I've just read this entire thread and don't know what to make of it -- but here are my facts:

I am recently out of the Navy, 4000 hr P3 instructor pilot with dreams of a major airline job. My first call for an interview was two days ago with Flex -- i was pretty excited, and my interview is next Tues. If I pass that, i can expect a class as pretty quickly. all sounded rosy to me, until i read this thread.

is life at flex really that bad? should I pursue flex at this stage? or hold out for one of my dream options? (WN, CO, FEX, etc) -- still learning this business we love to hate - thanks all...

Well now that mgmt has probably figured out who you are (not too difficult), and heard your true feelings, I am sure they'll provide you the opportunity to "continue to hold" out for one of your dream options. Not sure I can blame them.

Heck, the interview might even be fun with most questions about "holding." "Tell about holding." "How long do you like to hold before it is no longer fun? "How long do you expect to hold?"

 

[hammer2]

Well now that mgmt has probably figured out who you are (not too difficult), and heard your true feelings, I am sure they'll provide you the opportunity to "continue to hold" out for one of your dream options. Not sure I can blame them.

Heck, the interview might even be fun with most questions about "holding." "Tell about holding." "How long do you like to hold before it is no longer fun? "How long do you expect to hold?"

We are short of people. They will take him with open arms. oops!

 

[hammer2]

Greetings all -- I've just read this entire thread and don't know what to make of it -- but here are my facts:

I am recently out of the Navy, 4000 hr P3 instructor pilot with dreams of a major airline job. My first call for an interview was two days ago with Flex -- i was pretty excited, and my interview is next Tues. If I pass that, i can expect a class as pretty quickly. all sounded rosy to me, until i read this thread.

is life at flex really that bad? should I pursue flex at this stage? or hold out for one of my dream options? (WN, CO, FEX, etc) -- still learning this business we love to hate - thanks all...

Havn't you done any research. If you have the time to apply at your dream job, you have the time to see what CS & nja pay and qol is compared to flex.

 

[fdxav8r]

Dont know exactly which short female you are referring too.

One Cpt said that Rick was saying the company is talking raise for you guys. (Great, your welcome)

I'm also curious about which short female you're referring to.
And I don't think the 'contract with the owners' existed back then. I was hired in '97, and I was short too.

I hope Flex does come through with a raise for you guys. I enjoyed working at Flex back then, and it was hard to leave. Good people, enjoyable trips, good equipment... And back then, the management team was different. That made a huge difference. All that being said, I am glad I left when I left.

From talking to friends that are still there, I think if the majors ever really start hiring, Flex will really hurt. People remember how they were treated when other options become available.

I'm sure you all know that FedEx is hiring. Do you also know that their corporate flight department flies LR45s and Challengers (601s)? That was my 'in', and also for several others from Flex who followed.
Good luck with the raise, and keep those resumes and updates hot.