Flex's new bases

[V1 Rotate]

Is "IND" included in the new bases?

Yes it is.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Great TWA, I'm glad they are adding new bases, but why did it take years?

 

[Propilot77]

We have been asking for more bases for years

They added 2 new bases under Bombardier, DEN and ORD.

It was under Bombardier's OWNERSHIP...yes, however every pilot at Flexjet knows that wasn't dictated by Bombardier but one certain individual who was our last D.O. Bombardier did not care where the pilot's lived as long as trips were covered. That's the real reason!

 

[V1 Rotate]

Great TWA, I'm glad they are adding new bases, but why did it take years?

See post above ^^^

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Thanks Pro

 

[GooseHZ]

Flex pilots votes for or against this new schedule/crew base means nothing. If all of you voted no it would still happen.
What are the details? What happens if an airline cuts flights and you just moved? Can they make you drive to others airports? They can make us...but there are limits in distance and time. How much notice do you get if they decide to remove your new domicile from the list? What parameters must the new domicile maintain to remain a domicile is it based on number of flights and cost?

Lots of questions you guys don't have answer to. We do...it's written in our CBA. Just something to think about.

 

[el raton]

Flex pilots votes for or against this new schedule/crew base means nothing. If all of you voted no it would still happen.
What are the details? What happens if an airline cuts flights and you just moved? Can they make you drive to others airports? They can make us...but there are limits in distance and time. How much notice do you get if they decide to remove your new domicile from the list? What parameters must the new domicile maintain to remain a domicile is it based on number of flights and cost?

Lots of questions you guys don't have answer to. We do...it's written in our CBA. Just something to think about.

You guys want us to fail so bad.

 

[GooseHZ]

We do not. We want you to see that you have more options than being a at will employee. We want you to see that you currently no say in your future. All you have is a illusion of choice.

So why do you think we want you to fail? Would you not want answers to my above questions before you move to a new city?

We have seen how KR operates for years. You have worked for him for 5mins.

Learn from our experience or ignore it. Free country.

 

[dime line]

You guys want us to fail so bad.

You cant be this dumb! Why the hell would we want you to fail?

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

You cant be this dumb! Why the hell would we want you to fail?

I don't think you guys want us to fail. You just want us to mistrust KR so we join your union. You will say anything to give us doubt.

Once again WHY would FJ add these bases when they are under no obligation to do so and then use it to screw us. Doesn't really pass the BS test.

Have they announced to your pilot group how many FO pilots are jumping ship to the Global? Guess what, they aren't management pilots, these are line pilots that trust KR enough to step our from under the CBA to advance their careers.

If KR treated you guys they way you portray I wouldn't think a single line pilot at FO would dare fly the Global no matter what the pay. C'mon, you know he is just going to take that pay and any nice parts of the job away in a Friday email, right. That's how it always goes, right?

So if your guys that are going to the Global have experienced the same working conditions under KR as you have, then you tell me why they trust him? Why would they give up the IBT protection? It sounds like suicide, or maybe you guys are just full of BS.

 

[el raton]

You cant be this dumb! Why the hell would we want you to fail?

Then just welcome us to DAC and leave it at that. We don't have to explain to you what was proposed or offered to us. We're separate, let's keep it that way!

 

[luckydog]

Flex pilots votes for or against this new schedule/crew base means nothing. If all of you voted no it would still happen.
What are the details? What happens if an airline cuts flights and you just moved? Can they make you drive to others airports? They can make us...but there are limits in distance and time. How much notice do you get if they decide to remove your new domicile from the list? What parameters must the new domicile maintain to remain a domicile is it based on number of flights and cost?

Lots of questions you guys don't have answer to. We do...it's written in our CBA. Just something to think about.

Since you're making crap up, you forgot to add the scenario where my domicile gets nuked.

You don't know the answers or even the right questions, just let it go.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Flex pilots votes for or against this new schedule/crew base means nothing. If all of you voted no it would still happen.
What are the details? What happens if an airline cuts flights and you just moved? Can they make you drive to others airports? They can make us...but there are limits in distance and time. How much notice do you get if they decide to remove your new domicile from the list? What parameters must the new domicile maintain to remain a domicile is it based on number of flights and cost?

Lots of questions you guys don't have answer to. We do...it's written in our CBA. Just something to think about.

Have you seen the proposal?

The proposal states that they can add additional bases. The future, but bases cannot be taken away unless it is voted for. Your CBA allows the company to close bases based on criteria listed. Per the new base plan they can't close the new bases, even if all airlines stopped serving it unless we vote for that to happen.

Yes there are other airports at some of the bases you are responsible for. This is just like our bases we have now, no change.

Once again, educate yourself before you get on here and sound ignorant.

 

[The Architect]

Former Management now Union Members

Have they announced to your pilot group how many FO pilots are jumping ship to the Global? Guess what, they aren't management pilots, these are line pilots that trust KR enough to step our from under the CBA to advance their careers.

If KR treated you guys they way you portray I wouldn't think a single line pilot at FO would dare fly the Global no matter what the pay. C'mon, you know he is just going to take that pay and any nice parts of the job away in a Friday email, right. That's how it always goes, right?

So if your guys that are going to the Global have experienced the same working conditions under KR as you have, then you tell me why they trust him? Why would they give up the IBT protection? It sounds like suicide, or maybe you guys are just full of BS.

Two of the initial Global pilots were Flight Options Management. One was Chief Pilot and the other Director of Flight Administration. The third was the former Director of Operations that became a IBT Local 1108 member.

So, they were management.

So, they haven't experienced the conditions discussed under KR. They created and enforced those conditions.

They were management. So, they were not covered by the CBA. Well the former DO eventually was.

Now, the best part. The Chief Pilot wanted to protect his seniority number at Flight Options. How did he do that? He is now a proud member of IBT Local 1108!

So, TWA - How about that?

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Two of the initial Global pilots were Flight Options Management. One was Chief Pilot and the other Director of Flight Administration. The third was the former Director of Operations that became a IBT Local 1108 member.

So, they were management.

So, they haven't experienced the conditions discussed under KR. They created and enforced those conditions.

They were management. So, they were not covered by the CBA. Well the former DO eventually was.

Now, the best part. The Chief Pilot wanted to protect his seniority number at Flight Options. How did he do that? He is now a proud member of IBT Local 1108!

So, TWA - How about that?

I am not talking about the initial group. I am talking about the second group.

They start training July 21.

How about that.