Flexjet, pilots...

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

OK another question that might seen behind the curve but, is the 300 and the 350 the same type rating?

Yes, there are minor differences.

As 300 crews are coming through training they are all being trained on the 350.

 

[doh]

Yes, there are minor differences.

As 300 crews are coming through training they are all being trained on the 350.

Almost correct. If you are coming through long recurrent, you get trained. If you have short or are not due before the end of the year, you do the differences training online. Yes, you get paid for the on line training.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Almost correct. If you are coming through long recurrent, you get trained. If you have short or are not due before the end of the year, you do the differences training online. Yes, you get paid for the on line training.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[doh]

Thanks for the correction.

I was thankful...I didn't have to do the on line!

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

So do you doe the sim training completely inhouse?

 

[doh]

All the instructors and check airmen are on our list.

 

[shanes123]

new Interesting RUMOR..Seems someone that knows someone that knows someone that interviewed for a Legacy stewardess position was told they are looking to replace 10. I thought they were getting rid of the Legacy anyone hear this also? Is there changes being made to The FJ side? Makes no sense but the Girl supposably had a face to face interview and was told that in interview. No need to Duck (yet)

 

[slowtation capt]

new Interesting RUMOR..Seems someone that knows someone that knows someone that interviewed for a Legacy stewardess position was told they are looking to replace 10. I thought they were getting rid of the Legacy anyone hear this also? Is there changes being made to The FJ side? Makes no sense but the Girl supposably had a face to face interview and was told that in interview. No need to Duck (yet)

Replace 10? What are you talking about, this made no sense.

 

[shanes123]

Yes makes no sense. Let me clarify better. A girl interviewed with flops (supposibly ) and was told in interview they are hiring 10 girls for the legacy. The person that told me said. she wasn't sure if there hiring 10 more or replacing 10. She was confused also by the remark. But the other rumor was there getting rid of that program.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Are any of the FO pilots that went to flex going to the 300/350?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Hey FX guys, looks like four more Flight Options pilots have slizzard over to fly with you guys. This is what each of them were making when they left FO.

BA, 15 year Phenom Capt. $102,000
MC, 15 year Beechjet Capt. $102,000
EG, 15 year Beechjet Capt. $102,000
AG, 15 year Phenom Capt. $102,000

This time the pay comparison is easy, since BA, MC, EG and AG were all 15 year guys at FO, we can look at them all as a group. On day one, as a F/O at FX, each of them will be making almost as much as your year four Lear 45 Capts., who currently make $103,000 and over $40,000 more than the year two Lear 45 F/Os already on the property.

As with my last post on this subject, the source of my information was the pay scales contained in the ?Flexjet Hiring? memo both FX and FO sent out to their respective pilot groups back in August. So these are the pay numbers which were provided by the company. The Flight Options numbers came from our CBA.

BTW, your gonna love BA. I know we did.

 

[luckydog]

Your comparison is almost correct. The company uses 208 days of work (16 day/bid * 13) bids when quoting salary most of the time.

So with that is mind, they will be making about 35k more than a 2 year first officer, and only 6k more than a Lear PIC on 2nd year pay. But because of some reason that has long since been rendered moot, PICs lose a year of longevity when they upgrade, so the PIC on 2nd year pay has been at FJ 3 years.

As I keep saying, WHY DOES IT MATTER TO YOU?

Go work on your contract negotiations so you can post how you stuck it to the boss. Currently the economy is up, owners are flying, and the company is making money, we're all expecting great things now that you're not trying to sign a contract "during the worst recession in recent memory".

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Thanks for the update lucky. It does matter to me. I think the facts should be out there for all to see. It makes me feel better. Is that ok with you?

 

[DirtyBeech]

I don't know why 2nd year FO's keep being used for comparison. Pretty much everyone is on year 8.

 

[doh]

I'm not sure how their rates negatively affect me either. If they upgrade out of seniority, that is another matter.