Flexjet Pilot Authorization Card

[Guitar Guy]

Everyone is looking (the views on this thread on the BB is amazingly high) and waiting to see what Flex management's response will be. Hopefully their response will not be delayed due to any shake-ups that may or may not be occurring.

I agree with most of the sentiments of your post. But I think a question many at Flex should be asking themselves is what they will do next if Flex's management doesn't respond in a meaningful way to the IBB package at NetJets.

 

[steelersrule74]

Should we thank the NJ union for our last raise? If you think anything other than a resounding yes, then you are completely in the dark.

no one needs to thank anyone, but the timing of the raises at NJA's competitors is suspicious. Also, if IBB is adopted see if you get another raise. What would happen if you ask for more at a time when NJA isn't negotiating? What if you asked for more than NJA pilots make? Would your company say you're asking above market wages?

NJA wages are driving the market. That's the reality. No thanks are necessary.......

 

[JokerFuel]

Just sat through re-current. Management's spin on the NJ proposal is obvious. They will do nothing. They had several retorts to the NJ proposal. Their biggest, "If they have it so good at NJ then why do they want to change their contract after only two years?" of course they don't understand the answer: because the union allowes them to, and the company (NJ) is obligated to re-negotiate.... The ability to modify an agreement is such a great benefit. We should have a working agreement at Flex. We should have input and control in our working environment. As stated earlier, We should be "partners and benefactors" in our companies success. We must send in the cards now.

 

[hammer2]

Just sat through re-current. Management's spin on the NJ proposal is obvious. They will do nothing. They had several retorts to the NJ proposal. Their biggest, "If they have it so good at NJ then why do they want to change their contract after only two years?" of course they don't understand the answer: because the union allowes them to, and the company (NJ) is obligated to re-negotiate.... The ability to modify an agreement is such a great benefit. We should have a working agreement at Flex. We should have input and control in our working environment. As stated earlier, We should be "partners and benefactors" in our companies success. We must send in the cards now.

Joker, did you happen to see Rick roaming the hall ways?

 

[Club ORD FO]

I remember one of the "benefits" of being non-union that the company use to tell us is that we have the ability to make changes a lot faster, since we do not have to wait years for contract negotiations.... ummm... opps. guess that argument wont work anymore.

 

[Av8tor]

Most of you were being served KOOL AID and bought it. Stop drinking the KOOL AID.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Yeah this is getting very interesting.

 

[Flyingdog1]

Just keeping this thread up front.

 

[doylehargraves]

I'm absolutely astounded at the numbers right now. I thought the union would have went through last time but, this time it looks like its going to happen and, with overwhelming support. Management has got to be nervous right now.

 

[hammer2]

What do the numbers look like? What % are we looking at? It may be nesseccary, as the new rumor is netjets wants us in their playground.

 

[vixin]

I wonder if RH has sent his card in yet?

 

[rumrnr78]

I drank the koolaid than sobered up. Unfortunately, many at Flex are like the line in a Reznor song, "Happiness in slavery"
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[Club ORD FO]

It may be nesseccary, as the new rumor is netjets wants us in their playground.

what do you mean by that?

 

[hammer2]

what do you mean by that?

There's a rumor they want to buy us. Sure would hate to be stapled to the bottom of their seniority list.

 

[GSXR600]

There's a rumor they want to buy us. Sure would hate to be stapled to the bottom of their seniority list.

Oook here we go!!!

spread the big one!!!

 

[Guitar Guy]

There's a rumor they want to buy us. Sure would hate to be stapled to the bottom of their seniority list.

Wow - the classic rumor had NetJets buying Flight Options. Then there was talk that Textron that was going to make up with NetJets by selling Citation Shares to NetJets. Now we have NetJets wanting to buy Flex.

I call that a rumor trifecta.

As always, I'll believe it when I see Flex's planes getting QS N-numbers and appearing on the Bridgeway ramp.

 

[NETFLIER]

Wont happen. Owner of Netjets doesnt want them and doesnt want thier planes, and quite frankly doesnt need them. Flexjet has a good "little" niche market with thier product. They will never be more than a 125 airplanes and they are simply the test bed for new aircraft launch.

Its just a shame that some of the pilots dont want to get paid what they are worth, and continue to work within the rules set forth my Flex management. You deserve better!

 

[bailey3083]

There's a rumor they want to buy us. Sure would hate to be stapled to the bottom of their seniority list.

Union does not help that. Look at AA/TWA, USAir/AWA, AA/RenoAir. All of them are unionized and they were still stapled to the bottom of the list.

Bailey

 

[Inigo Montoya]

well that's ALPA. They dont seem much help to anybody.

and Bailey, are you leaning at all towards the the union these days? we want you on our team! Don't make us plan an intervention!

 

[jonjuan]

Wont happen. Owner of Netjets doesnt want them and doesnt want thier planes, and quite frankly doesnt need them. Flexjet has a good "little" niche market with thier product. They will never be more than a 125 airplanes and they are simply the test bed for new aircraft launch.

LOL-I believe you commented last year how they would never be over 100 planes. Next year will your number be 150? According to bombardier, the 300 is sold out until 2012. How many does flexjets have? I guess their owners dont mind being a "test bed." What's the alternative? Buying the "very well tested" G200, Ultra, CX? How's the hawker 4000 "test bed" coming along? I wonder if CAL is getting nervous about being a "test bed" for the 787? LOL......