No, you'll get the Batphone access code right away, along with a new double breasted uniform and a significant pay raise just to get you up to DAL standards.
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No, you'll get the Batphone access code right away, along with a new double breasted uniform and a significant pay raise just to get you up to DAL standards.
No, I wont say that. I understand you have 18 on order. Good for you. It'll be great when that aircraft finally does its first take off and then get's into production.
We'll just have to settle for production aircraft like the 777LR and 737. In about 20 years our MD88 fleet might be as old as your DC-9s.
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•Delta will dump 15-20 older, less efficient mainline jets, plus 20-25 regional jets. The change will result in a 10% reduction in Delta's domestic flying capacity by year's end. It also will eliminate at least 2,000 jobs.
OUCH!
Nice try, bottom line its sucks for all airlines when fuel is rediculous. nice flame attempt though
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From the very same article:
2 Billion $. Wow....Double Ouch!! What multiple of DAL 2007 profits is that? Hmmmmmm?
Lame.
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This is all a rehash of an old article. Old news.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0565283420080305
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0565283420080305
Wow, $1.7B more, what multiple is that of NWA's revenue. Ouch.
How many DC-9s are you parking this year, how many 747s? Do you have any scheduled deliveries this year? No. Ouch.
Why does your MEC still want this deal?
•Delta will dump 15-20 older, less efficient mainline jets, plus 20-25 regional jets. The change will result in a 10% reduction in Delta's domestic flying capacity by year's end. It also will eliminate at least 2,000 jobs.
OUCH!
Nice try, bottom line its sucks for all airlines when fuel is rediculous. nice flame attempt though
22 aircraft deliveries through 2009 and increased international flying.
March 21, 2008
Delta Pilots and Flight Operations Professionals,
Below find the text from the most recent Flight Operations code-a-phone.
"As our domestic economy continues to slow, the real bright spot in our business plan is our continued international expansion, which should be on the order of approximately 17% through the remainder of this year.Over the next 10 days Delta will initiate service to China and make our long awaited entry into Heathrow.We will continue to support this expansion and will continue to take delivery of 22 international aircraft through 2009 including B-777-200LR, B-757-200ER, and B-737-700s. In fact yesterday, at 4pm EST, we took title to our 2nd 777-200LR, the aircraft arrived in ATL just before 5pm Friday afternoon."
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Occam is a great guy, well informed and a true asset to the NWA pilots, but the article is a rehash of a 3 week old Reuters article. It must have been a slow day at the NYT.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0565283420080305
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WOW, your company can continue to increase its debt load while its projected to lose A LOT of money. That's great, I am sure those plans are set in stone and could NEVER change. Get real, your company is just as susceptible to increase fuel, if not in more trouble. In case you haven't figured it out yet you dont have some DAL double breasted canopy protecting you from the current issues no matter how many, "projected" aircraft you "may" get.
The real kicker would be if these announcements and aircraft are actually being planned already for the combined carrier. think about it :bomb:
Again we are all going to be caught up in this mess so we might as well get on the same page now whether we like it or not.
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Don't worry detoilet, you can always supplement your income by cleaning pools like the nice chap that was over today!
Gear up junior greenbook!:laugh:
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Asked and Answered earlier today. You Really need some new material. Or an attention span as large as your ego.
Oh, and to answer your question, a 1.7B increase in fuel expense is 2.2 times NWA's 2007 profit while a 2B increase in fuel at DAL is 3.2 times your 2007 profit.
Oh yeah, from the 10k's,:
DAL average fleet age = 12.4
NWA average fleet age = 17.5 (11.1 if you take out the -9's, as you guys say is going to happen)
What a huge difference
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What the rest of us would really like to see out of this
The only pool you should be concerned about is the hiring kind you'll be trying to get into after your next trip through CH11. Unless we merge and our financials save you down the road. In which case you really need to get up to speed on your terminology. I'm "senior bluebook" ....as in "My Captain is a senior bluebook guy from NWA".
Again we are all going to be caught up in this mess so we might as well get on the same page now whether we like it or not.
Well certainly it would be best if oil wasn't over $100/bbl, and certainly we are all in for a bumpy ride, however I don't think that a merger with NWA is inevitable. I believe DAL has other strategic alternatives that may be more workable and may in fact be preferable.
International expansion is an important part of DAL's plan of reorganization and it has worked well. These aircraft are nothing new and management has reaffirmed their plan to take delivery of these aircraft which are a vital part of our international expansion plans.
The ideal time for getting on the same page was 2 months ago. If there is going to be a merger, your MEC is going to have to step up and take some ownership of the SLI. Passing the buck and putting the careers of your pilots in the hands of an arbiitrator, is an abdication of leadership.
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Yes, but you fail to appreciate my Honda generator, Sat reciever and 65 inch plasma. The only in flight entertainment the NWA passengers get is watching my TV while on final to 8L in ATL.
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You really need to get more creative....I guess you fail to recognize your chp 11 trip, which resulted in much poorer pay and work rules!
I guess to expect more from some fng greenbook lacky is too much!
Or we buy you, and rescue you from another trip into bankruptcy!
This from the punk who has the reading comprehension?:laugh: Sparky, you are really funny!:laugh:
Sure you are greenbook!
Come on junior greenbook......Gear up now!
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Or the cnn monitor in the detoilet terminal while waiting for their dc9 to be fixed while on yet another mx delay!:laugh: :laugh:
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Got a link - this doesn't show up in any of the news wires or NYT site?
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Well certainly it would be best if oil wasn't over $100/bbl, and certainly we are all in for a bumpy ride, however I don't think that a merger with NWA is inevitable. I believe DAL has other strategic alternatives that may be more workable and may in fact be preferable.Maybe, maybe not, what would happen if NWA and CAL merge? they would have a strong hold on the skyteam alliance and DAL would be the odd guy out. Thats CALs biggest concern right now between NWA/DAL. EIther way keep sipping on the koolaid it should keep everything in a blurr
International expansion is an important part of DAL's plan of reorganization and it has worked well. These aircraft are nothing new and management has reaffirmed their plan to take delivery of these aircraft which are a vital part of our international expansion plans.
The ideal time for getting on the same page was 2 months ago. If there is going to be a merger, your MEC is going to have to step up and take some ownership of the SLI. Passing the buck and putting the careers of your pilots in the hands of an arbitrator, is an abdication of leadership I think they have figured out it is better putting it in the hands of an arbitrator as opposed to putting it in the hands of DALALPA to decide. DALALPA doesnt want to go to an arbitrator because they know their stance is lopsided and an arbitrator will see right through it. .
Discuss
Oh yeah, from the 10k's,:
DAL average fleet age = 12.4
NWA average fleet age = 17.5 (11.1 if you take out the -9's, as you guys say is going to happen)
What a huge difference
Ouch, that is an old fleet. 17.5 years old. Look at the bright side, once all your DC-9s are gone your average fleet age will be just north of 11.1.
Do you have any replacement aircraft on order for those aging DC-9s?
What's the average age of your 747-200s. 25?
What's the average age of your 747-400s. 15?
Good thing you got the last of your A330s in there to drive your average down. We'll be taking delivery of 22 new aircraft through 2009, that should help us out.
It appears to be a reprint of a three week old Reuters article.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0565283420080305
Discuss
There's nothing left to discuss. That's the point.
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Sure they do, its called "Compass."
Probably older than detoilet320! Oh wait, he's a greenbook....Nevermind!:laugh:
Wow, that is old, and gass guzzling to boot!
Shhhh. Don't go confuising those guys with facts, it only confuses them!
Like fins said, at least the price of aluminum has gone up, so they'll get some good coin for those aging dc9's!!:laugh:
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Agreed...this doesn't show up on the NYT site after a complete search. There are also no corrections or retractions. A general google search shows only one hit on the article
http://www.homeandawaymagazine.com/content.cfm?n=396
...and who knows, they may have gotten it from here.
This could just be a mistake, but I don't think that the NYT would rehash a story like this as FDJ suggested, considering they had fairly decent coverage of both the DAL and NWA MEC responses after things fell apart. The NYT and the Washington Post are really the only two decent papers left, and they are usually reasonably careful about checking their facts.
In any event, I'm calling BS on this one.
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