Extraneous useless radio phrases

[BrownStreak]

I always wondered why anyone would ask for a windcheck unless the winds are pushing the limits of the airplane. I am not sure why pilots say "we have him on TCAS". Unless you have the traffic visually, ATC does not care if you have him on TCAS.

Wind check = a pilot who is behind the aircraft. Look out the window! Which way are you crabbed? Oh, to the right? Well that the direction the crosswind is coming from, dumb@ss!!!! sheesh.
(of course sometimes you have to ask if they are landing you in a tailwind that exceeds your component but come on, how often is that why?)

 

[ATCT]

Wind check = a pilot landing you in a tailwind that exceeds your component but come on, how often is that why?)

I guess you dont fly to Houston alot :laugh:

ATCT

 

[bigheadtodd]

Above FL180? No visual separation allowed up there.

Are you kidding? Seriously! Are you kidding?

 

[Booker]

Are you kidding? Seriously! Are you kidding?

Well, I'm no controller, but 7110.65 states the following:

7−1−1. CLASS A AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS
Do not apply visual separation or issue VFR or
“VFR-on-top” clearances in Class A airspace.

What am I missing?

Thanks

 

[Mach 80]

>>>>Wind check = a pilot landing you in a tailwind that exceeds your component but come on, how often is that why?<<<

Unless it's a direct tailwind, which is seldom, who can compute the tailwind triginomitry in their head while flying on short final.

Unless there is a big storm nearby, "wind check" is indeed a waste of time. I think it's just a bad habit some guys have. Drives me crazy when the ATIS is reporting a 6kt wind and some guy wants a "wind check".

Another bad habit is the guy who always asks if they are cleared to land on short final after having been cleared a few minutes ago. All they are doing when they do that is startle the controllers -- the controller knows he cleared him to land earlier and this now stressfully causes him to look out and see if someone is crossing the runway or on it. It makes the controller think he might have screwed something up.

 

[runwayjockey]

>>>>Wind check = a pilot landing you in a tailwind that exceeds your component but come on, how often is that why?<<<



Another bad habit is the guy who always asks if they are cleared to land on short final after having been cleared a few minutes ago. All they are doing when they do that is startle the controllers -- the controller knows he cleared him to land earlier and this now stressfully causes him to look out and see if someone is crossing the runway or on it. It makes the controller think he might have screwed something up.

22000 Fricking hours and you never ever had to ask for confirmation on a landing clearance? Give me a F%$#ing break! If my FO has doubt and I have doubt we are asking and I don't give a hoot if it makes your Pssy hurt!

 

[Mach 80]

Re-read my post. I said ALWAYS asks. I know on occasion someone might forget and I certainly have. I was talking about guys who just about always ask about landing clearance after having received it a few minutes previously. I had an F/O who was in this bad habit and I finally had to tell him to knock it off and to pay attention when he got it the first time.

 

[414Flyer]

I make no apologies for verifying landing clearance on short final. Sometimes I forget, sometimes even the controllers forget to issue it too.

I would rather spend a few seconds on that, than face accidentally landing without clearance. I once saw a Aloha 737 land without a clearnace once, luckily for them, the Tower did not want to make an issue of it. Sometimes its just easy to get preoccupied and forget

 

[mtsupilot376]

Ha i hear ya there. Who the eff cares what you say on the freq. Were all doing our jobs, makin the best of it. I might just wake up early tomorrow and watch "The View" and hear a bunch of Bit_ches complain about everything going wrong with their lifes, and I will think about all the people here on FI Bit_Ch'n about a topics like this. I enjoy hearing the "nice personable conversations" when im stuck on a 5 day trip to BFE Kansas. It gives me something to look foward to for my trip home. JUST MY 2 CENTS

You watch The View?

 

[Mach 80]

>>>> I make no apologies for verifying landing clearance on short final. <<<<

Again, re-read my post. I said guys who ALWAYS ask. Certainly if you can't recall - ask. I was referring to pilots who have made it a habit to always ask on every approach to landing. I have flown with a few of them and it was ridiculous.

Heard this yesterday:

ATC: " 'Airline xyz', descend and maintain FL 240".

Airline xyz: "Descend to FL 230.....WE'LL DO IT".