Ever get Turned or Slowed for The "Love Machine"?

[Old School 737]

Controller in PDX thought he would help SWA by sneeking them out between United rolling out and us landing causing us to go around! When SWA was put into position they said "we'll make u proud". After we were sent around SWA said "sorry" and United said "way to make em proud!" funny thing is the capt and I were Just talking about this thread before it all went down!

 

[scoreboardII]

what you meant to say was Yonited saw an opportunity to slow roll the rollout...

 

[rajflyboy]

Pretty sure the space shuttle shoots a straight in, not the overhead / SFO.

You bring up a good point

 

[rajflyboy]

Controller in PDX thought he would help SWA by sneeking them out between United rolling out and us landing causing us to go around! When SWA was put into position they said "we'll make u proud". After we were sent around SWA said "sorry" and United said "way to make em proud!" funny thing is the capt and I were Just talking about this thread before it all went down!

Thats funny !!!

 

[GuppyWN]

Controller in PDX thought he would help SWA by sneeking them out between United rolling out and us landing causing us to go around! When SWA was put into position they said "we'll make u proud". After we were sent around SWA said "sorry" and United said "way to make em proud!" funny thing is the capt and I were Just talking about this thread before it all went down!

You should be thanking United for this one.

Besides. I think you're lying. I've NEVER seen the controllers in PDX or SEA "hook us up." Horizon and Alaska have the home field advantage which, BTW, I think is a goood thing.

Gup

 

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While I wouldn't call either pattern an overhead or SFO that is interesting and I stand corrected on the st-in. I guess my source of Michael Bay and Armageddon wasn't the best....

What is an Earth Harizon though?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You should be thanking United for this one.

Besides. I think you're lying. I've NEVER seen the controllers in PDX or SEA "hook us up." Horizon and Alaska have the home field advantage which, BTW, I think is a goood thing.

Gup

You guys are in total denial....Blame the landing plane???....SWA gets TIPH just because, and it's the rollout plane's fault?? I just want to make sure I have your argument straight Gup.....

The smart-a$$ radio call was truly a shining moment for you....(shaking head)

 

[Old School 737]

You should be thanking United for this one.

Besides. I think you're lying. I've NEVER seen the controllers in PDX or SEA "hook us up." Horizon and Alaska have the home field advantage which, BTW, I think is a goood thing.

Gup

No lie! I'll get you a copy of the O53 report if you like. Don't get me wrong I like SWA they are great guys but ATC does seem to help them a bit more than others. It was a new controller and he never should have put them into positionin the first place. We were tight on UAL to begin with due to approach controller and they were in a 757 a med sized runway with no highspeeds so you know he is gonna use most of it. I don't think the SWA guy was spooled up though because when he did get clearance it took a while for him to roll.

 

[Quimby]

So a controller thought they could squeeze an a/c out (happened to be SWA), a/c on final has to go around.

Earth shattering news. This has never, ever happened before.

(is the sarcasm thick enough?)

Lots of new controllers out there & many more to come in the next few years.

 

[ASApuppy]

I Luv this topic. Too Bad it so long to to air out. I can cite 3 times we got slammed by ATC to help SWA out.

1) In ONT, rare east flow, was cleared for position and hold. Then out rolls SWA from the gate. They are cleared for takeoff from the intersection in front of us while we sit at the end of the runway. WTF?

2) in LAS, we are next in line for takeoff, but we hear SWA cleared for takeoff from the number 2 spot. Then ATC asks us if we are on freq yet. I responded, "Yep, heard the 3 guys in front of us and the guy behind us cleared for takeoff".

3) also in LAS, had SWA follow us from LAX the whole flight. We get to approach and we are extended on downwind to Hoover Dam while SWA is turned for base behind us.

I'm all for SWA thumping us on tickets and their costs, but I draw the line at ATC favors. That should be an unbiased, level field.