Email from Airtran MEC: Secret MOU between SWA and SWAPA

[Britpilot]

When you say something like this:
and this:
You should expect someone to knock your dork in the dirt.

Right on.
This jackass believes he is something special when the opposite is the reality.

 

[Quiet Flight]

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[madjack]

Water under bridge? You did see CMs letter addressing their most recent lawsuit?

 

[ron burgundy]

AAI wanted relative seniority we wanted staple...the list is neither but does grant SWA seniority to pilots from the smaller less desirable airline...at the expense of the RSW pilots ...now the ingrates are sueing their new company for more...

$3,200,000,000.....alot of money for something... not that desirable.

I guess GK had the desire though, to buy some pi$$ ant little airline so that airline could help SWA attain record profits.

 

[madjack]

Less desirable because we had numerous AAI pilots with apps at SWA...oh I guess you forgot about that...several AAI pilots were in the hiring pool when the announcement was made, they are now hundreds of numbers ahead of their former/fellow poolies...worked out well for them...

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

I wonder what the previous greatest number of pages or posting is for airing your dirty laundry.
Nobody at SWA is holding a gun to force anyone to stay, man up and if you don't like it move on to another airline, there's lots of space at the bottom for new hires

 

[waveflyer]

Water under bridge? You did see CMs letter addressing their most recent lawsuit?

Their union's lawsuit

Is it a surprise that the lawyers are doing this?

TWA is a convenient scapegoat-

 

[Ty Webb]

Nobody at [insert carrier] is holding a gun to force anyone to stay, man up and if you don't like it move on to another airline, there's lots of space at the bottom for new hires

I always cringe when I hear some fool parrot these words.

Probably one of the most self-defeating things ever uttered for the Pilot profession.

 

[jonjuan]

Less desirable because we had numerous AAI pilots with apps at SWA...oh I guess you forgot about that...several AAI pilots were in the hiring pool when the announcement was made, they are now hundreds of numbers ahead of their former/fellow poolies...worked out well for them...

So, aai pilots who were swa poolies and not on SWA property when the merger was announced are now senior to where they were before? Crazy.

 

[Britpilot]

I always cringe when I hear some fool parrot these words.

Probably one of the most self-defeating things ever uttered for the Pilot profession.

Yup............

 

[tankerhead]

So, aai pilots who were swa poolies and not on SWA property when the merger was announced are now senior to where they were before? Crazy.

No, the long-time SWA poolies from 2008 are racked just below the AAI class that started indoc on 20 Sep 2010. After them, you will find the Oct, Nov, and Dec AAI classes, then the "next-gen" SWA new hires.

 

[madjack]

To clarify, we had AAI pilots in the SWA hiring pool who withdrew from the pool post announcement (rather than going to class at SWA), and are now higher on the combined list...

 

[K-Mart]

To clarify, we had AAI pilots in the SWA hiring pool who withdrew from the pool post announcement (rather than going to class at SWA), and are now higher on the combined list...

I don't blame them. That's what I would do.

 

[madjack]

"Probably one of the most self-defeating things ever uttered for the Pilot profession."

Yeah right up there with "Hey let's sue our new employer"

 

[madjack]

I don't blame them...they wanted to be at SWA over AAI and because of the deal got even better seniority for being at AAI...worked out well for them (not so much for the SWA poolies)...

 

[waveflyer]

Wasn't there a pilot or 2 that accepted class after the company pressured them to - and lost a LOT of seniority?

If so that's really messed up

What's the real deal on that?

 

[madjack]

"What's the real deal on that?"

Well I am pretty sure they are not sueing...

 

[Phlintstone]

Wasn't there a pilot or 2 that accepted class after the company pressured them to - and lost a LOT of seniority?

If so that's really messed up

What's the real deal on that?

Probably just rumor. The OAT folks in the May 2010 class or the 20 Sept 2010 class were put ahead of the poolies. The other AT classes were stapled to the bottom behind the majority of poolies which began class Jan-Mar 2011.

I find it very comical that some SWA pilots act like the poolies got royally screwed. They were not on the either property (payroll)...period, end of story. I guess you could say they had an opportunity to get hired at AT but chose not to or did not meet the requirements. Their own personal choices landed them in the spot they are in just the same as my choices. I am ahead of them on the SLI so I guess, my choices were smarter.

Phred

 

[madjack]

I guess you could say they had an opportunity to get hired at AT but chose not to or did not meet the requirements."

Once again, these were AAI pilots in a SWA hiring pool, who elected (I don't blame them) to leave the pool after the announcement was made to acq AAI and are higher on the MSL than they would have been if they went to class at SWA with their fellow poolies. The point illustrates that, pre-acq, SWA was a more desirable place to work for some AAI pilots then AAI (hence their decision to interview and be placed in a SWA hiring pool). An earlier poster stated that AAI was a desirable acq target for SWA, that is obvious, but what is also obvious is that some/many AAI pilots wanted jobs at SWA...that is what is truly comical, that AT/ALPA is sueing SWA for the -717 going away early but many of the "victims" felt they would have been better off at SWA pre acq announcement...the AAI jackwagons that undermined SL9 (supported by the career SWA bashers on this forum) play the "we got screwed because Gary lied" argument...what they won't admit is that they had seat/pay/base/furlough protections in SL9 that they rejected because they wanted more (DOH/Relative sen position on the combined list). Then they blinked when GK stated he might get rid of the -717 (or maybe the majority spoke).

 

[humveedriver]

I guess you could say they had an opportunity to get hired at AT but chose not to or did not meet the requirements."

Once again, these were AAI pilots in a SWA hiring pool, who elected (I don't blame them) to leave the pool after the announcement was made to acq AAI and are higher on the MSL than they would have been if they went to class at SWA with their fellow poolies. The point illustrates that, pre-acq, SWA was a more desirable place to work for some AAI pilots then AAI (hence their decision to interview and be placed in a SWA hiring pool). An earlier poster stated that AAI was a desirable acq target for SWA, that is obvious, but what is also obvious is that some/many AAI pilots wanted jobs at SWA...that is what is truly comical, that AT/ALPA is sueing SWA for the -717 going away early but many of the "victims" felt they would have been better off at SWA pre acq announcement...the AAI jackwagons that undermined SL9 (supported by the career SWA bashers on this forum) play the "we got screwed because Gary lied" argument...what they won't admit is that they had seat/pay/base/furlough protections in SL9 that they rejected because they wanted more (DOH/Relative sen position on the combined list). Then they blinked when GK stated he might get rid of the -717 (or maybe the majority spoke).

But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
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[SWA Bubba]

But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

This has nothing to do with anything. In fact, this post is inconceivable.*

Bubba


* From one of the best movies of all time.

 

[Phlintstone]

This topic is "mostly dead." Who's getting hungry for an MLT sandwich?

Phred

 

[madjack]

You mean you will put down your rock and I will put down my sword and we will try and kill each other like civilized people?

 

[fletch717]

You mean you will put down your rock and I will put down my sword and we will try and kill each other like civilized people?

Since you work for SWA, technology dictates you have the rock as SWA hasn't discovered metal yet.

 

[Quiet Flight]

I always cringe when I hear some fool parrot these words.

Probably one of the most self-defeating things ever uttered for the Pilot profession.

Doesn't make it not true though. If someone doesn't like the idea of working at SWA, then hit the road. No one is asking the Trannies to stay.

 

[humveedriver]

Doesn't make it not true though. If someone doesn't like the idea of working at SWA, then hit the road. No one is asking the Trannies to stay.

Not stay at SWA? That IS inconceivable!

 

[SWA Bubba]

Not stay at SWA? That IS inconceivable!

I do not think that word means what you think it means.....

Bubba

 

[Skyboy722]

Since you work for SWA, technology dictates you have the rock as SWA hasn't discovered metal yet.

LMAO!

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Bake]

Me too, that was freakin funny

 

[vixin]

And a rock crushes scisors.