Eagle: The real deal

[I Hate Freight]

Prediction for my personal self is 4 to 5 years to upgrade. If anyone wants the skinny on Eagle, go to Eaglelounge.com, not Flightinfo. I back up what atccfi says, though. As siucavflight said, if any of you prospects want an interview, send a PM to any of us Eagle guys with your name and email. We have an internal referencing system.

And you get $500!

 

[crashmbern]

Why Would the flowthroughs be denied flow???? The big question is wether they will be recalled in seniority order, not wether they will flow.... I strongly agree that any flowthrough capt. should HAVE to flow since it opened up a seat.
I jump on AA a good amount, and maybe I've just been lucky, but I find most guys pretty nice. I'd even say most of those guys have no clue/don't care as to what is going on at eagle, or what they have heard is really misconstrued...
Oh well.....

They have already bypassed a few of the eagle flowthroughs. I think a greivance has been filed. Will see what happens.

 

[siucavflight]

They have already bypassed a few of the eagle flowthroughs. I think a greivance has been filed. Will see what happens.

No, you are wrong, no flow has been bypassed, if they were they would go to first year FO pay.

 

[eaglefly]

No, you are wrong, no flow has been bypassed, if they were they would go to first year FO pay.

A few months on the property shows.

Flowthru's are supposed to flow via new-hire class. AMR is bypassing the flowthru's and does not consider them furloughees with recall rights. ALPA has greived it (and will almost certainly lose).

It will take at least 18 months for all the flowback/furloughees to get back to AA. Letter 3 will expire by then and it will most likely require arbitration to see if the AA-seniority numbered flowthru's will flow. Those without numbers have already been torpedoed by AA.

New-hire class and Hashish don't mix.

 

[yaya]

8 Years on the property here.

AMR is not bypassing anybody in the recall. They announced that they will be recalling the furloughed pilots. We are all happy and thankful that this process has begun and the flowbacks will be leaving, so there will be a lot of movement.

 

[crashmbern]

they are bypassing the flowthrough pilots. Some of the eagle flowthroughs have seniority on the APA list ahead of the guys who are being called.

 

[siucavflight]

A few months on the property shows.

Flowthru's are supposed to flow via new-hire class. AMR is bypassing the flowthru's and does not consider them furloughees with recall rights. ALPA has greived it (and will almost certainly lose).

It will take at least 18 months for all the flowback/furloughees to get back to AA. Letter 3 will expire by then and it will most likely require arbitration to see if the AA-seniority numbered flowthru's will flow. Those without numbers have already been torpedoed by AA.

New-hire class and Hashish don't mix.

Um, yeah, I am new to Eagle, but my father has been at AMR for a little while, and is a flow back, he does know what is happening, he got recalled and starts class JAN 3rd, no pilot has been bypassed as you might think. Once again people who dont know anything feel the need to speak on everything, NO ONE has been bypassed.

 

[crashmbern]

Have your dad look on the APA's seniority list. I was talking about Eagle flowthrough's who have seniority numbers at AA. They have seniority numbers at AA despite never being an AA pilot. They are being bypassed currently. ALPA has filed a greivance about it. When they became a Jet Captain at Eagle they opted for flowthrough and were given a seniority number at AA.

If they can eventually flowthrough to AA thats another 400 captains leaving eagle on top of the flowbacks.

 

[yaya]

Have your dad look on the APA's seniority list. I was talking about Eagle flowthrough's who have seniority numbers at AA. They have seniority numbers at AA despite never being an AA pilot. They are being bypassed currently. ALPA has filed a greivance about it. When they became a Jet Captain at Eagle they opted for flowthrough and were given a seniority number at AA.

If they can eventually flowthrough to AA thats another 400 captains leaving eagle on top of the flowbacks.

You are speaking of two different things. There are some Eagle "jet captains" with "AA numbers" but never made it to AA during the last hiring period. In order to get "recalled" one must have been a pilot on the property in the first place.

AMR didn't honor the "flowthrough" plan in good faith from the beginning. This is no secret. Eagle pilots that want to further complicate the whole recall by fouling up the process, are only serving their own selfishness. Get it straight

 

[jeroom]

How hard is it to get a job with AA when you work for AE? Is it a flow through? Or do they not give you any special treatment?

Yes, you'll get lube with KY before treatment

 

[siucavflight]

Have your dad look on the APA's seniority list. I was talking about Eagle flowthrough's who have seniority numbers at AA. They have seniority numbers at AA despite never being an AA pilot. They are being bypassed currently. ALPA has filed a greivance about it. When they became a Jet Captain at Eagle they opted for flowthrough and were given a seniority number at AA.

If they can eventually flowthrough to AA thats another 400 captains leaving eagle on top of the flowbacks.

I see you are a bit confused. I am talking about all of the flowback CAs we have at Eagle, they will be the first ones to be recalled, not one of the flowthroughs who have not been at AA before will be called untill all of the furloughs have been recalled, even though they have a number.

 

[Starscream]

Actually the rumour that I keep hearing is that AMR/Eagle are desparate to get the AA seniority numbered flowthrus off Eagle property and up to AA because they'll go from 18 yr RJ capt. pay ($83-$97/hr.) to first year S80/737 pay ($35/hour -- HUGE pay cut). For this very reason most of the flowthrus (especially those who are 50 yrs. old and up) do not want to go. At this point the comapany would have to offer some sort of financial incentive to get these guys to go. But none of it will play out apparently until the 2 ,850 furloughed (non flowthru) AA guys get the call first, otherwise APA would be all over the company, and they'd be right because the agreement does say they go as part of a newhire class. If AMR had their way they'd have probably started the recall process by offering positions to AE flowthrus. Management has said many times that Eagle's labor costs are too high and that we are waaaay too top heavy compared to other regionals. So look for AMR to work out some sort of arrangement with the flowthrus, possibly even the non-numbered ones because even if they can't get 18 yr. payscale guys over, they'll likely be more than happy with 15 yr. (1991 hires -- the majority of the non-numbered guys) going to AA. We'll have to wait and see what the powers that be decide.

 

[DGdaPilot]

And you get $500!

Welcome to last week dumbazz. Shhhh, don't tell anyone. It's a secret.....oh wait....... Nope it never was a secret.

 

[CJII]

how hard is it to get a job with eagle? are they hiring just about anyone? what is the interview process like?

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

No Bashing

The seat lock is one year. I've heard of guys going to training earlier but no guarantee.

Here's the most recent pay scale for FO's from the company website.

Years of Service / Turboprop / Turbojet​

1. $23.51 $23.51​
2. $25.27 $31.77​
3. $28.15 $34.49​
4. $31.05 $36.20​
5. $32.49 $37.12​
6. $33.93 $37.74​
7. $34.37 $38.22​
8. $34.92 $38.87​

Wow, That's what the pay is these days flying those new jets?

Question: I saw an Eagle jet in PHL, and it had American Connection on the fuselage, then I saw another plane in IND and it was an American Eagle plane, what's the deal with the names?