Duane Woerth rumor... YGTBSM!!

[aa73]

Just read a rumor that Woerthless has accepted a position with NWA Management as a lobbyist... is this effin' true?? 73

 

[jonjuan]

Just read a rumor that Woerthless has accepted a position with NWA Management as a lobbyist... is this effin' true?? 73

Ummmm, how about we use something besides fraternity brother grammar.

 

[PCL_128]

Just read a rumor that Woerthless has accepted a position with NWA Management as a lobbyist... is this effin' true?? 73

Highly unlikely.

 

[AA717driver]

Ummmm, how about we use something besides fraternity brother grammar.

You've never been an ALPA member, have you? I thought AA was pretty restrained. TC

 

[doh]

Free country, say it how you feel my brother!

 

[ferlo]

Highly unlikely.

I'd say Highly Likley. You don't think he's going back to being a lowly line Captain, with a Sh*ty contract do you? What's Randy Babbit doing these days?

 

[PCL_128]

I'd say Highly Likley.

You obviously don't know Captain Woerth.

You don't think he's going back to being a lowly line Captain, with a Sh*ty contract do you?

Of course not. He hasn't flown in many, many years, so no one expects him to go back to that. Besides, that would be a waste of the political skills and contacts that he's built over the years. I fully expect that he'll become a lobyist for some labor organization, possibly the AFL-CIO. For now, he seems to just be taking a break.

What's Randy Babbit doing these days?

He has his own consulting firm that deals mainly in the airline industry and with labor groups.

 

[((7))]

Ferlo, along with any intelligent pilot knows Worthlessness character. That is why it's VERY HIGHLY LIKELY that he will be sucking up to who will pay the most. He never demonstrated a ounce of character while leading the Association, why would he start now? Get back in your cubicle at Herndon PCL. Duane will be around to take your sorry rear to the Crab Legs and Rack of Lamb buffet. Of course "Flight Loss Reimbursement" will apply.

 

[Lear70]

Ferlo, along with any intelligent pilot knows Worthlessness character. That is why it's VERY HIGHLY LIKELY that he will be sucking up to who will pay the most. He never demonstrated a ounce of character while leading the Association, why would he start now? Get back in your cubicle at Herndon PCL. Duane will be around to take your sorry rear to the Crab Legs and Rack of Lamb buffet. Of course "Flight Loss Reimbursement" will apply.

PCL doesn't work for ALPA. He's a status rep in DTW, hopefully moving to greener pastures in very short order.

Never met DW, but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[PCL_128]

Ferlo, along with any intelligent pilot knows Worthlessness character.

Have you ever met Captain Woerth and spoken to him for even a couple of minutes?

Of course "Flight Loss Reimbursement" will apply.

I haven't had any FPL in the past two months, and I've taken maybe 5 or 6 days total in the last year. My work for ALPA is done almost exclusively on my days off.

 

[A350]

PCL:

The "hero" worship of a failed leader such as Woerth is an obvious flaw in your character....Hasn't flown in many years? I have yet to meet a pilot worth (no pun intended) a $hit that could go more than a few months without flying...because most of us love the flying.

Take if from someone who has seen a few ALPA leaders....every one of them ascends to a position. None of them would consider going back and being a lowly line pilot. It would be beneath their "skills", plus they would have to go out and live under the contracts they either signed or negotiated. They would have to sit in the crew room and see first hand their handiwork. First hand from their fellow pilots who have seen their pay, benefits, and pensions decimated.

They would rather sit in an high priced office, wear an expensive suit, and pontificate to the rest of us on CNN or CNBC.

Puke.

A350

 

[F9 Driver]

What's Randy Babbit doing these days?

http://www.eclatconsulting.com/bios.htm#Babbitt

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Take if from someone who has seen a few ALPA leaders....every one of them ascends to a position. None of them would consider going back and being a lowly line pilot. It would be beneath their "skills", plus they would have to go out and live under the contracts they either signed or negotiated. They would have to sit in the crew room and see first hand their handiwork. First hand from their fellow pilots who have seen their pay, benefits, and pensions decimated.

They would rather sit in an high priced office, wear an expensive suit, and pontificate to the rest of us on CNN or CNBC.

Puke.

A350

That's interesting...I was the Chairman of the Negotiating Committee for ExpressJet's last contract and had absolutely not problem leaving the world of full time flight pay loss and going back to the line....to fly under the very contract I helped negotiate. And now I'm a line pilot at another airline. I'd be careful about stereotyping so heavily A350....I know of many other pilots besides me who have done a lot of ALPA work who are now happily flying the line.

-Neal (not afraid to sign his real name)

 

[A350]

Blue Devil:

Name ONE ALPA National EVP or higher that has gone back to flying the line.....

A350

 

[Occam's Razor]

Blue Devil:

Name ONE ALPA National EVP or higher that has gone back to flying the line.....

A350

Steve Zoller
John Feldvary
Pete Dodge
Tom Wychor

Just off the top of my head...

 

[Occam's Razor]

Ferlo, along with any intelligent pilot knows Worthlessness character. That is why it's VERY HIGHLY LIKELY that he will be sucking up to who will pay the most. He never demonstrated a ounce of character while leading the Association, why would he start now? Get back in your cubicle at Herndon PCL. Duane will be around to take your sorry rear to the Crab Legs and Rack of Lamb buffet. Of course "Flight Loss Reimbursement" will apply.

Do you buy your Bile Helper at Costco?

 

[canyonblue]

Have you ever met Captain Woerth and spoken to him for even a couple of minutes?

I have, and wasn't too impressed. :erm: Total politician, but then again maybe that goes with the territory.

 

[PCL_128]

Steve Zoller
John Feldvary
Pete Dodge
Tom Wychor

Just off the top of my head...

Damn it Occam, you're going to get them all confused with those pesky facts.

 

[Huck]

Do you buy your Bile Helper at Costco?

Post of the day, right there....

 

[A350]

PCL:

4 guys is hardly a mandate....all that means is that they aren't in it for themselves/$$$ and those guys obviously like to fly. Good on them.

The only one I know of is Feldvary....USAir guy.

Isn't Wychor the Mesaba MEC Chairman? IMO, that isn't flying the line. Your opinion of course will vary.

A350

 

[PCL_128]

PCL:

4 guys is hardly a mandate....all that means is that they aren't in it for themselves/$$$ and those guys obviously like to fly. Good on them.

There are more of those guys than you think. It's not just former EVPs either. Michael Geer is the current DAL EVP, and he still flies the line regularly. Others do as well. Our MEC Chairman will be going back to the line in the next few months. Happens all the time.

Isn't Wychor the Mesaba MEC Chairman? IMO, that isn't flying the line. Your opinion of course will vary.

You're correct. Captain Wychor is still an MEC Chair even though he isn't an EVP anymore. I believe he's on full-time FPL, but he's also doing organizing work for National. Tom does more ALPA work than just about anyone.

 

[Occam's Razor]

The only one I know of is Feldvary....USAir guy.

So the litmus test for existence is whether or not YOU know them?

Got it!

Rene Descartes...ever meet him?

I thought he existed. So did he. Which sorta proves it, I think. <--That means I exist!

I can think of a number of National VP's that would have loved to have gone back to the line...but Age 60 stopped them: Mugger, Moose Donnelly, Denny Dolan, JJ O'Donnell, Duffy, etc.

You apparently blame National officers for working full-time to support the MEC's and take our message to the government. Anytime you elect one of your own to lead, you get "politics"...the art of convincing others that you're the best one for the job.

Maybe we should abandon this stupid election stuff and just choose our President by lottery. Not your issue, though.

 

[ferlo]

So the litmus test for existence is whether or not YOU know them?

Got it!

Rene Descartes...ever meet him?

I thought he existed. So did he. Which sorta proves it, I think. <--That means I exist!

I can think of a number of National VP's that would have loved to have gone back to the line...but Age 60 stopped them: Mugger, Moose Donnelly, Denny Dolan, JJ O'Donnell, Duffy, etc.

You apparently blame National officers for working full-time to support the MEC's and take our message to the government. Anytime you elect one of your own to lead, you get "politics"...the art of convincing others that you're the best one for the job.

Maybe we should abandon this stupid election stuff and just choose our President by lottery. Not your issue, though.

You're point is taken, however, let's wait and see what Duane does. I'm betting it's anti-labor. I wouldn't be so fast to protect his honor... Time will tell.

 

[skiandsurf]

Worked under Randy Babbitt

AA senior management comes from ALPA HQs. I guess they work at ALPA, then go to the companies with all the inside dirt.


http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pressReleases/2004_03/17_oliver.jhtml

 

[d328pilot]

Have you ever met Captain Woerth and spoken to him for even a couple of minutes?

Met him, got screwed over by him, and had the pleasure of voting against him at the last BOD. It was kind of funny though watching him lobby the Mesa guys in their hospitality suite. I knew when I saw him in with the regionals he was in trouble...

 

[kommutrdog]

Where Duane Woerthless will wind up

DW will wind up being a paid lobbyist for the ATA. Not the airline, but the Airtransport Association. He'll use his "skills" to lobby against pilot workrules, quality of life improvements etc. He'll convince Congress and the public that pilots are just over-paid and underworked whiners who "should just be glad they can have a job they 'love' "

I'm not surprised he's not there already.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Despite your uncompromising certainty...you are wrong.

Duane is a trade-unionist.

Stick to timing the Markets, Nostradumbass.

 

[redbook]

Despite your uncompromising certainty...you are wrong.

Duane is a trade-unionist.

Stick to timing the Markets, Nostradumbass.

Occam,

I enjoy reading your posts. I particularly like the previous one re: Descartes.
I can't believed you dropped so far on this one with Nostradumbass.

Come on, man, you are half the reason I read this board. Thank you.

 

[gmsguy]

Occam is the only reason I read this board. Keep 'em coming!

BTW, I get a kick out of the "Mr. Rainey" replies to Yourpilotdork.

 

[((7))]

John Feldvary- Classic fellow- In the mold of Occam. Would and did sell his Grandmother for a lengthy stay feasting at the National Expense Account Boys Club/ALPA. Occam you are sure testy these days. Did Duane no show for your Leg Waxing appointment or maybe your having one of those mood swing moments? Whatever it is keep taking your Midal and you should be your pampered self appointed idiot in no time.