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StopNTSing said:
If it was so awesome, why were so few built? If it was the airplane that made FL into what it was, why did they stop buying 'em and instead opt for...wait for it...737s!

Can we all just agree that smart people on both sides of the table hammered out this deal and that it is a win-win for SWA and Delta? "Fleet Commonality" is obviously not even in Delta's vocabulary, but it is a cornerstone of SWA's business model. Not introducing a second narrow-body fleet type is saving SWA huge sums of money. Finding a readily-available mainline aircraft to replace 50-seat RJ flying will save Delta huge sums of money. Everybody wins! :beer:

P.S. The ATL is still very much a work-in-progress for SWA. Wait another year or two to see it in it's final form (there will still be room for both airlines. BTW)
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We were the launch customer. Boeing decided to stop building them. We went over seas to get more after we started taking the 73's. They worked for us and was the airplane that took us from 32 DC9's and a handful of 73 200's to a 140 fleet airline that was WN's biggest low cost competition.

Somebodies going to have to draw out on a white board how this is a good deal for WN but I'll take your word for it.

DL won't have a bigger competitor in ATL for some time, maybe not in my lifetime than FL. That's just not how WN has ever done things. Look out Silver Comet field, WN may look to build an international terminal there, ala HOU.
 
Luv2BFlyin said:
They worked for us and was the airplane that took us from 32 DC9's and a handful of 73 200's to a 140 fleet airline that was WN's biggest low cost competition.

Somebodies going to have to draw out on a white board how this is a good deal for WN but I'll take your word for it.
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They worked for us and was the airplane that took us from 32 DC9's and a handful of 73 200's to a 140 fleet airline that was WN's biggest low cost competition.

Yes, but AirTran was a hub and spoke airline, SWA is not.

Somebodies going to have to draw out on a white board how this is a good deal for WN but I'll take your word for it.

Here it is straight from the CEO's mouth, sorry but I can't put it on a white board.

Gary Kelly. "Replacing 717 flying with 737s is expected to significantly benefit our financial results once the transition is complete, and better supports our strategic and financial goals."
"The Company's annual pre-tax results are expected to benefit by approximately $200 million, after all Boeing 717s are transitioned to Delta and replaced with Boeing 737 flying."
 
"but AirTran was a hub and spoke airline, SWA is not."............
Yeah right. Mini hubs abound with mega hubs at the bases.
Stop over flight plan with customers on board for two to three stops to get to their destination.
Hard to have a catastrophic melt down like MDW if it is not a hub. If all you do is point point how in the world could your baggage handling be so dismal? (Because you are not point to point.)

Many a trip started in ATL and did not return util the last day.
 
From another forum:


Update as of 29JAN14: DELTA Plans New Domestic Boeing 717 Markets in S14
by JL
Update at 0600GMT 29JAN14

As per 29JAN14 GDS timetable/inventory display, DELTA has added additional routes to be operated by Boeing 717 in Summer 2014 season. Planned new Boeing 717 markets as follow.
Atlanta ? Abilene 1 daily (01APR14 ? 30APR14)
Atlanta ? Gainesville 1 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Grand Rapids 1 daily (01APR14 ? 01MAY14)
Atlanta ? Memphis 1 weekly (05APR14 ? 26APR14)
Atlanta ? Mobile 2 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Myrtle Beach 2 daily (eff 01APR14; up to 3 daily in May 2014; 1 daily from 05JUN14)
Detroit ? Green Bay 2 daily (01APR14 ? 01MAY14)
Detroit ? Kansas City 6 weekly (01APR14 ? 30APR14)
Previously planned new Boeing 717 Markets in Summer 2014:
Atlanta ? Chicago Midway Up to 4 daily (eff 01APR14)
Atlanta ? Fayetteville AR 1 daily (eff 01APR14)
Atlanta ? Houston Intercontinental Up to 2 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Dallas Love Field 6 daily (eff 13OCT14)
Detroit ? Philadelphia 1 daily (01APR14 ? 30APR14)


I like the 6 daily 717s to Dallas Love....



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
I like the 6 daily 717s to Dallas Love....



Bye Bye---General Lee
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That's def a bitch-slap in the face. But I gotta back my new homeboys....I hope RA gets bitch-slapped back
 
General Lee said:
From another forum:


Update as of 29JAN14: DELTA Plans New Domestic Boeing 717 Markets in S14
by JL
Update at 0600GMT 29JAN14

As per 29JAN14 GDS timetable/inventory display, DELTA has added additional routes to be operated by Boeing 717 in Summer 2014 season. Planned new Boeing 717 markets as follow.
Atlanta ? Abilene 1 daily (01APR14 ? 30APR14)
Atlanta ? Gainesville 1 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Grand Rapids 1 daily (01APR14 ? 01MAY14)
Atlanta ? Memphis 1 weekly (05APR14 ? 26APR14)
Atlanta ? Mobile 2 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Myrtle Beach 2 daily (eff 01APR14; up to 3 daily in May 2014; 1 daily from 05JUN14)
Detroit ? Green Bay 2 daily (01APR14 ? 01MAY14)
Detroit ? Kansas City 6 weekly (01APR14 ? 30APR14)
Previously planned new Boeing 717 Markets in Summer 2014:
Atlanta ? Chicago Midway Up to 4 daily (eff 01APR14)
Atlanta ? Fayetteville AR 1 daily (eff 01APR14)
Atlanta ? Houston Intercontinental Up to 2 daily (01APR14 ? 04JUN14)
Atlanta ? Dallas Love Field 6 daily (eff 13OCT14)
Detroit ? Philadelphia 1 daily (01APR14 ? 30APR14)


I like the 6 daily 717s to Dallas Love....



Bye Bye---General Lee
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What forum you pull this from? HAHAHAHA, you seem to be an expert in this field
 
General Lee said:
I like the 6 daily 717s to Dallas Love....
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Delta doesn't own the gates that they are currently using at Love, and the company they lease them from has agreed to divest them---so how do you announce service from a market where you very possibly may have no gates?



At Love Field, Delta currently leases a gate from American and operates daily flights to Atlanta using small regional jets. Once the Wright Amendment restrictions expire next October, Delta will be able to use larger aircraft to fly to Atlanta or other destinations if it still has access to the gate.
"Without gate access, Delta could no longer provide Love Field service," the airline said.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/11/13/5334231/delta-wants-to-bid-on-airport.html



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