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[777forever]

LOL. From the poster with the least credibility on here. Everyone is always waiting with baited breath for you spot on prognastications! Do tell us more, Kreskin! Or are you too busy shining Lees shoes?

Haha, if you had been spot on, the company would have been shut down or near it right now. Every other one of your posts are about how your panties are in a wad because you think you're going to get furloughed, lose your house, your wife etc. Go nonrev to a beach and chill out.

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[79%N1]

Im in the top half of the company. I won't be furloughed.

You can point to my saying I didn't believe we would see 900's here, since Skywest opened a 900 base in ATL. I was wrong. As for the rest of your assertions, they are fabricated and
Assnine....assiten.....asseleven! (thanks to Steven A.!)

 

[777forever]

Im in the top half of the company. I won't be furloughed.

You can point to my saying I didn't believe we would see 900's here, since Skywest opened a 900 base in ATL. I was wrong. As for the rest of your assertions, they are fabricated and
Assnine....assiten.....asseleven! (thanks to Steven A.!)

What assertions? Do tell! I was one of the first on here to tell Acey pilots to embrace PBS and it could be a great thing. Check that thread and look at the negative and now proven wrong reactions.

And I can point to a whole lot more than just your 900 point. You recently went on a whole rant about losing your job thanks to the new Delta contract. Once again, you need to chill

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[CRJ puppy]

Maybe because a CAL guy was bashing DAL pilots on a regional thread?

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You do understand that rhetorical questions are not expected to be answered?!

Please tell me you learned this in school...

(ps - THAT is a rhetorical statement...)

 

[777forever]

You do understand that rhetorical questions are not expected to be answered?!

Please tell me you learned this in school...

(ps - THAT is a rhetorical statement...)

Yawn

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[aircombat]

What assertions? Do tell! I was one of the first on here to tell Acey pilots to embrace PBS and it could be a great thing. Check that thread and look at the negative and now proven wrong reactions.

And I can point to a whole lot more than just your 900 point. You recently went on a whole rant about losing your job thanks to the new Delta contract. Once again, you need to chill

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what are the proven wrong reactions? Most negitive posts were saying that it wasn't going to create growth instead that it would most likely create stagnation which it has.

 

[777forever]

what are the proven wrong reactions? Most negitive posts were saying that it wasn't going to create growth instead that it would most likely create stagnation which it has.

Ah...where to begin?

You are kidding, right? Was there some sort of sarcasm indicator that you missed?

PBS would NOT be an improvement for the overwhelming, vast majority of the pilot group.

If the folks that run the airline want us to operate under a PBS system, they will have to negotiate for it. If pilots are going to take the hit to their quality of life that will come with PBS, then there WILL be something given to the pilot group in return.

This 'do a favor for management' line of thinking is playing with fire...

ASA could switch to PBS, fly single engine in cruise, take a paycut and work a day for free each month, and it won't stop the flying from going to Pinnacle and Mesaba. Anderson is a Wholly Owned carrier guy, as opposed to Delta's former leadership. ASA has shrunk in the past year, at the expense of Pinnacle's and now Mesaba's growth. I don't see what we can do to stop the slide now. It's funny, every day I see ASA above Pinnacle in performance (despite having 10 times the flights for DCI), yet Pinnacle gets more growth while ASA shrinks. ASA was told no growth during negotiations due to not knowing our future costs, yet Pinnacle continues to grow despite negotioations. Right now, ASA is on the outside looking in at the DCI restructuring, which will only get worse post-merger when 50's start getting parked as they have stated.

That said, I don't think PBS is that big of a deal like a lot of guys who think it is the end of the world.

Gee, 124 to 140. Sound like growth to me. Last I checked PCL just got what, 22 900's for Delta with that last batch of 7, and more options to follow.

As for Mesaba, I'm just going by the "massive growth" I'm hearing that they are about to get. Managers at ASA are also saying that it looks like Mesaba will be getting the future DCI growth post-merger.

All ASA has got is the retirement of their ATR's.

Tons of growth going on over at Mesaba(Now Pinnacle)!

Don't give in. PBS RUN AWAY. You all giving into PBS won't matter a hill of beans to the final count.

1. I, I and I.

2. If you really think this ask the CMR guys about the growth they were promised. ZERO, they were cut.

3. Is this your code word for FAVOR? Are you the type that has to be just like everyone else? Every airline is different. What works for one may not work another.

My crystal ball says that in 2 years, the same time the DCI agreement and the current contract is amendable (that's the reason the company went from 5 years straight to 3 years duration), ASA will have approx 1000 pilots on their list. Look at Air Wiskey.

Close on the 1000 pilots at ASA. You were ONLY off by 700 pilots if you only consider the CRJ side...

777, I think you spent too much time on the ATR flying with JoeyMerchant. Don't fall for that crap. PBS is a nightmare, and you shouldn't give them anything without something in return.

It works great if your senior.......sounds like you're junior enough to still be doing MGM trips....just on the jet

777forever, for someone who's never been able to hold an actual line, you really seem to know a lot about why PBS is so much better than our current line system.

PBS will especially suck for those of us that don't want to be regional lifers.

PBS will not get us those shiny EMB-175s, it will not get us another $2.35/hr pay raise, it won't get us United and British Airways flying, and it won't get us 777's...forever.

The problem, I believe is, the PBS that ASA would get is the one that is already compatible to the sked+ and crewbid, which is the one Skywest uses.

I could be wrong, that is how I understand it, though.

Yes, you were wrong

We will never allow PBS at ASA! Wait a minute...

As far as growth, wait til the end of the month, which I believe will put to rest the opinion that PBS has stagnated Acey.

 

[Freebrd]

Yawn

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obviously doesn't comprehend your message, or that most on here think 777s posts are, well, about obvious things we all already are aware of

 

[aircombat]

As far as growth, wait til the end of the month, which I believe will put to rest the opinion that PBS has stagnated Acey.

most of those posts supported what I said earlier, that most negative posters were saying PBS wouldn't create growth. And we are looking forward to throwing your new prediction in your face at the end of this month.

 

[777forever]

most of those posts supported what I said earlier, that most negative posters were saying PBS wouldn't create growth. And we are looking forward to throwing your new prediction in your face at the end of this month.

2 posts from 79% don't qualify as "most"

The majority of people against PBS were so for QOL issues. They were simply wrong

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[aircombat]

2 posts from 79% don't qualify as "most"

The majority of people against PBS were so for QOL issues. They were simply wrong

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5 out of 10 mention growth (lack of), or saving the company money in order to obtain growth. And post number 10 was a joke.

 

[nimtz]

Wow, you're a CAL guy, that's great. Thanks for all of the help with your FANTASTIC work rules that haven't helped anyone in years. Your pay isn't great, and you had no insurance for your new guys for the first 6 months. You guys couldn't lead anyone out of a paper bag..

The large TPs didn't create black holes? How about your 737-500s in EWR? Where did they go? Many were parked and then sold to Russian airlines. After the Colgan DH8-400s showed up, many went away. The big dashes started taking over multiple short haul routes out of EWR, and then they started doing the same out of CLE and eventually IAH. You have far fewer 735s now than you did before the large TPs. Admit it! 32 Dashes meant 32 fewer 735s.

And your scope was so good that Jeff figured out to just put "United Express" bigger RJs through IAH, CLE, and EWR, and flew past it.(CAL Scope) Those planes didn't say "Continental Express", they said "United Express." Jeff has been steam rolling you the whole time, and of course you blame ALPA........you need to re-read your stuff before you sign the dotted line! But, you will still blame DL and ALPA, even though your own shortsightedness has brought larger RJs to EWR. Get that? YOUR OWN.

So, how did that "plan" of yours work, trying to force Boeing or someone else to get you a 100 seater? Anyone come up with one? Did you try the C-Series? You could have ordered that one? How about the E190? Your management didn't want it. They still don't it appears. Do you really think the "90" seater is a "90 seater"? It may have a frame that big, but it is limited to 76 seats, with a first class section. That's 10 more seats than your 66 seater, which is really a 70 seater. The 717 carries a lot more than that, and is a lot newer than many planes out there. It will add jobs and go back to cities currently flown by CR9s and E175s, which will now cover old 50 seat routes. You only WISH you could have come up with a plan like that. Instead, you are left without any suitable 100 seater for the next few years, and that means your RJs will continue to fly those routes, competing against DL 717s on many.

And in the end, you are stuck with even more money losing 50 seaters than the rest of us, and you're happy with that! That is crazy. You have more props(Don't forget the SKW props in SFO/LAX/SEA) and 50 seaters than anyone else. Congrats. I wonder who you will blame.....????


Bye Bye---General Lee

GL,

Same garbage logic of the 90's that set the path for our career to tailspin. I've read enough of your diarrhea over the years to step away rather then waste the broadband. Hope for all our sakes there is not another concessionary cycle 5-10 years down the road where managements come with their thumbs firmly pressed on Section 1 of our contracts. Thus far through good times and bad Admirals like you have shown nothing but a willingness to accede to management's outsourcing needs.

 

[nimtz]

You do understand that rhetorical questions are not expected to be answered?!

Please tell me you learned this in school...

(ps - THAT is a rhetorical statement...)

Maybe they didn't cover that at Daytona. Or perhaps during that particular piece of the liberal arts education he was watching a super shiny ASA CRJ-700 land!

 

[General Lee]

GL,

Same garbage logic of the 90's that set the path for our career to tailspin. I've read enough of your diarrhea over the years to step away rather then waste the broadband. Hope for all our sakes there is not another concessionary cycle 5-10 years down the road where managements come with their thumbs firmly pressed on Section 1 of our contracts. Thus far through good times and bad Admirals like you have shown nothing but a willingness to accede to management's outsourcing needs.

This from the group who has Capts volunteering to sit right seat for extra cash! Talk about helping the industry! Thanks for that. You stood your ground on 50 seat RJs, and got railroaded by smarter company lawyers who sent in "United Express" RJs instead. You allowed unlimited large TPs to take over a lot of your NE ops. You said no to larger RJs initially, which flooded 50 seat ERJs going TUS to IAH and onto IAD. Just nuts.

The deal is to now cap the numbers and set ratios that favor mainline. If you can't do it, it will add to your current failure list. Get over yourselves, you certainly aren't perfect. Lowering overall numbers is now the name of the game, and taking back routes with correct sized planes (like 717s) can facilitate that. This plan did all of that, and larger RJs on current 50 seater routes helps your own profit sharing, plus gives the rest of us a better chance to Nonrev. If it is gonna be an RJ anyway, like to Laffyette, then put a 70 or 76 seater on it, and help everyone out. If its always full, then something bigger will migrate over there, flown by mainline. It just works, and unfortunately you guys don't have a plan for that. It appears with 88 717s coming, DL might...



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

at least you'll be behind ExJet employees when nonreving on ExJet planes Jenny
oh and thanks for caving once again for dollars chump

 

[JettBoii]

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