DAL and SKYW

[aircombat]

2 posts from 79% don't qualify as "most"

The majority of people against PBS were so for QOL issues. They were simply wrong

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5 out of 10 mention growth (lack of), or saving the company money in order to obtain growth. And post number 10 was a joke.

 

[nimtz]

Wow, you're a CAL guy, that's great. Thanks for all of the help with your FANTASTIC work rules that haven't helped anyone in years. Your pay isn't great, and you had no insurance for your new guys for the first 6 months. You guys couldn't lead anyone out of a paper bag..

The large TPs didn't create black holes? How about your 737-500s in EWR? Where did they go? Many were parked and then sold to Russian airlines. After the Colgan DH8-400s showed up, many went away. The big dashes started taking over multiple short haul routes out of EWR, and then they started doing the same out of CLE and eventually IAH. You have far fewer 735s now than you did before the large TPs. Admit it! 32 Dashes meant 32 fewer 735s.

And your scope was so good that Jeff figured out to just put "United Express" bigger RJs through IAH, CLE, and EWR, and flew past it.(CAL Scope) Those planes didn't say "Continental Express", they said "United Express." Jeff has been steam rolling you the whole time, and of course you blame ALPA........you need to re-read your stuff before you sign the dotted line! But, you will still blame DL and ALPA, even though your own shortsightedness has brought larger RJs to EWR. Get that? YOUR OWN.

So, how did that "plan" of yours work, trying to force Boeing or someone else to get you a 100 seater? Anyone come up with one? Did you try the C-Series? You could have ordered that one? How about the E190? Your management didn't want it. They still don't it appears. Do you really think the "90" seater is a "90 seater"? It may have a frame that big, but it is limited to 76 seats, with a first class section. That's 10 more seats than your 66 seater, which is really a 70 seater. The 717 carries a lot more than that, and is a lot newer than many planes out there. It will add jobs and go back to cities currently flown by CR9s and E175s, which will now cover old 50 seat routes. You only WISH you could have come up with a plan like that. Instead, you are left without any suitable 100 seater for the next few years, and that means your RJs will continue to fly those routes, competing against DL 717s on many.

And in the end, you are stuck with even more money losing 50 seaters than the rest of us, and you're happy with that! That is crazy. You have more props(Don't forget the SKW props in SFO/LAX/SEA) and 50 seaters than anyone else. Congrats. I wonder who you will blame.....????


Bye Bye---General Lee

GL,

Same garbage logic of the 90's that set the path for our career to tailspin. I've read enough of your diarrhea over the years to step away rather then waste the broadband. Hope for all our sakes there is not another concessionary cycle 5-10 years down the road where managements come with their thumbs firmly pressed on Section 1 of our contracts. Thus far through good times and bad Admirals like you have shown nothing but a willingness to accede to management's outsourcing needs.

 

[nimtz]

You do understand that rhetorical questions are not expected to be answered?!

Please tell me you learned this in school...

(ps - THAT is a rhetorical statement...)

Maybe they didn't cover that at Daytona. Or perhaps during that particular piece of the liberal arts education he was watching a super shiny ASA CRJ-700 land!

 

[General Lee]

GL,

Same garbage logic of the 90's that set the path for our career to tailspin. I've read enough of your diarrhea over the years to step away rather then waste the broadband. Hope for all our sakes there is not another concessionary cycle 5-10 years down the road where managements come with their thumbs firmly pressed on Section 1 of our contracts. Thus far through good times and bad Admirals like you have shown nothing but a willingness to accede to management's outsourcing needs.

This from the group who has Capts volunteering to sit right seat for extra cash! Talk about helping the industry! Thanks for that. You stood your ground on 50 seat RJs, and got railroaded by smarter company lawyers who sent in "United Express" RJs instead. You allowed unlimited large TPs to take over a lot of your NE ops. You said no to larger RJs initially, which flooded 50 seat ERJs going TUS to IAH and onto IAD. Just nuts.

The deal is to now cap the numbers and set ratios that favor mainline. If you can't do it, it will add to your current failure list. Get over yourselves, you certainly aren't perfect. Lowering overall numbers is now the name of the game, and taking back routes with correct sized planes (like 717s) can facilitate that. This plan did all of that, and larger RJs on current 50 seater routes helps your own profit sharing, plus gives the rest of us a better chance to Nonrev. If it is gonna be an RJ anyway, like to Laffyette, then put a 70 or 76 seater on it, and help everyone out. If its always full, then something bigger will migrate over there, flown by mainline. It just works, and unfortunately you guys don't have a plan for that. It appears with 88 717s coming, DL might...



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

at least you'll be behind ExJet employees when nonreving on ExJet planes Jenny
oh and thanks for caving once again for dollars chump

 

[JettBoii]

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