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[ACL65PILOT]

My data is the same as your Michael. Next bid will probably allow most to not even convert, or so they are saying.

I doubt I will hold an A position anywhere in the system and probably not a B position in ATL. Do not care really, it is just another course and another IOE. What fun.

 

[767/757]

I thought the results were not going to be posted until soc, which we still don't have?

SOC 0001 31JAN, tonight midnight +1

 

[Jet Wash]

SOC 0001 31JAN, tonight midnight +1

What? Jan 31 or dec 31?

 

[767/757]

What? Jan 31 or dec 31?[/QUOTE

Whoops - 31DEC.....sorry

 

[FUZZO]

Wait till it is out tomorrow...07 hires on 777 and 07 hires got some captain slots(if this news is true wow!! somebody screwed up their bids)

 

[FUZZO]

Also, expect to hear decisions in regards to the fate of certain base(s) and new base(s) in the next month.

 

[FUZZO]

Asia Plan is close to being finialized...sorry i am getting this as I type

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Fuzzo I am sending you a PM.

 

[FUZZO]

Guam, Alaska, 100 seaters, new base, base gone...my head hurts

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Ok here goes

GUM, DFW (maybe but probably a little later) CVG gone.

New C-Series order

New wide bodies
Couple I will not mention

Alaska announcement next month

Is this the stuff you are referring to?

 

[lookin4better]

"Alaska announcment" meaning?........merger?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

That is what I have been hearing.

 

[FUZZO]

Alaska ( /əˈlæskə/ (help·info)) is the largest state of the United States of America by area; it is situated in the northwest extremity of the North American continent, with Canada to the east, the Arctic Ocean to the north, and the Pacific Ocean to the west and south, with Russia further west across the Bering Strait. Approximately half of Alaska's 698,473 residents reside within the Anchorage metropolitan area. As of 2009, Alaska remains the least densely populated state of the U.S.[5]
The U.S. Senate approved the purchase of Alaska from the Russian Empire on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million at about two cents per acre ($4.74/km2). The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959. The name "Alaska" (Аляска) was already introduced in the Russian colonial time, when it was used only for the peninsula and is derived from the Aleut alaxsxaq, meaning "the mainland" or more literally, "the object towards which the action of the sea is directed".[6] It is also known as Alyeska, the "great land", an Aleut word derived from the same root.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Great. Another ********************ing merger.

 

[lookin4better]

It makes sense actually. Interesting 2010 ahead.... Other airlines will jump into bed for sure if that happens.

 

[lookin4better]

Looks like the C-Series(CS) is not going to roll off the assembly line anytime soon..... do they really want to wait until 2013 or longer for the CS to show up to take fill the 100 seat gap?

I have a horrible sinking feeling in my stomach they will try to get more 175/190's flown by contract carriers to fill the gap until the CS arrives..... but then when it comes time for mainline to fly the CS, back out claiming "we cant afford it"......thus ending up with no C-Series, and more mainline flying gone.... only a fear ... I hope it doesnt happen.

I say just order 190/195s now and have them at mainline (period!)... I am sure EMB is giving those things away right now. Better mainline pilots flying them then some contract carrier.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Might be the 195 too for a few years. Just make sure you will not be surprised about the changes coming now that we are in a post SOC world. They have been waiting two years for this!

 

[Aubie747]

Fuzzo check your PMs

 

[FUZZO]

Fuzzo check your PMs

You are correct.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Looks like the C-Series(CS) is not going to roll off the assembly line anytime soon..... do they really want to wait until 2013 or longer for the CS to show up to take fill the 100 seat gap?

They just might. How long has there been a "100 seat gap" at Pre-merger DAL?

I don't believe AA has had a 100 seater since the F-100s went to the desert, CAL and UAL are retiring their short body 737s... it maybe a gap they can afford to have until the "real" replacement arrives instead of an outlay of capital, effort, and a series of training cascades for a stop gap aircraft solution.

 

[lookin4better]

Lets hope so.... no more mainline jobs need to go to substandard regional pay.

I think if DAL MEC allows a "temp tix" for the E-195 to be flown by a contract carrier, they will never get those seats and jobs back.... never.

I hope DAL just waits for the CS to fill the gap, it is the smart thing to do. If they use the 195 flown by non-DAL pilots... those mainline jobs are gone forever.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Lets hope so.... no more mainline jobs need to go to substandard regional pay.

I think if DAL MEC allows a "temp tix" for the E-195 to be flown by a contract carrier, they will never get those seats and jobs back.... never.

I hope DAL just waits for the CS to fill the gap, it is the smart thing to do. If they use the 195 flown by non-DAL pilots... those mainline jobs are gone forever.

The MEC knows that is absolute suicide. We barked up that tree about a month ago and the rumor was very quickly squashed.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

"Alaska announcment" meaning?........merger?

Better to merger with alaska than continue with the relationship you have now. Alaska is just another DCI carrier disguised as a code share. Have you seen a route map of the west coast lately? Unfortunatley alot of green lines that used to be red.

 

[Mookie]

Better to merger with alaska than continue with the relationship you have now. Alaska is just another DCI carrier disguised as a code share. Have you seen a route map of the west coast lately? Unfortunatley alot of green lines that used to be red.

riiiiiiiight....We're a DCI carrier. Sure thing.

Mookie

 

[RiddleEagle18]

riiiiiiiight....We're a DCI carrier. Sure thing.

Mookie

That was by no means a knock on alaska. But Alaska right now is preforming the exact same function out west as a DCI carrier.

 

[Mookie]

That was by no means a knock on alaska. But Alaska right now is preforming the exact same function out west as a DCI carrier.

again...riiiiiiight....maybe we see you guys as a ACI for us out of ATL.

Mookie

 

[Truckdriver]

again...riiiiiiight....maybe we see you guys as a ACI for us out of ATL.

Mookie

Great point Mookie. I never thought about us feeding your one daily flight to SEA from ATL.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

Clearly you arent DCI, but I think you missed my point. Delta is using Alaska to fill its seats on international flights on the west coast, Instead of expanding using its own a/c. Either expand or merge but playing all these codeshare games is dangerous.

If ALPA isnt careful codeshares will be the next tool management uses to begin undercutting. In this case I dont think it is happening. Clearly alaska isnt a regional, and is paid well. I just fear what could develope from this.

The midwest codeshare scares me. Right now it looks like it is under control but do you really think DAL managment isnt going to try to get 100 seaters under the disguise of codeshare?

Thread drift.

 

[General Lee]

riiiiiiiight....We're a DCI carrier. Sure thing.

Mookie

Maybe I will be flying you to Sitka after all? That would be FANTASTIC. Remember, I will buy you your 3rd and 5th beers, plus half the wings....(mild only, please) And oh, you got both walkarounds...


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Maybe I will be flying you to Sitka after all? That would be FANTASTIC. Remember, I will buy you your 3rd and 5th beers, plus half the wings....(mild only, please) And oh, you got both walkarounds...


Bye Bye--General Lee

Mild wings? Thank you for finally proving that you indeed do have a vagina.