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How junior would the 777 go???

What is the QOL on the 777 like?

If there is hiring would a 777 DTW be possible for a newhire???
 
With the SURPLUSES in categories, are those going to be Displacements/reduction in spots then from those catergories or will those catergories just be in a surplus by the number of spots indicated on AE. I have heard yes those are the #of displacements from those catergories and I have heard they will be just in a Surplus for those Catergories???
 
With the SURPLUSES in categories, are those going to be Displacements/reduction in spots then from those catergories or will those catergories just be in a surplus by the number of spots indicated on AE. I have heard yes those are the #of displacements from those catergories and I have heard they will be just in a Surplus for those Catergories???

Simply said, Surpluses are fat they're trying to trim from a specific category. How? Either by people leaving voluntarily (Voluntary Displacement), or involuntarily (Mandatory Displacement).

For example, a category has 10 surpluses. They'll run the VD from top to bottom, and see if anybody wants to leave 1st, and let's say 5 who wants to bail, then the MD will only affects the bottom 5 guy in that category. If none wants to VD, then MD will kick the bottom 10 guys out. (If the company decides that's the case)

Another note, the company doesn't have to displace/AE any more than it specified in the bid. Clear as mud?
 
How junior would the 777 go???

What is the QOL on the 777 like?

If there is hiring would a 777 DTW be possible for a newhire???


The 777 is very senior and don't see it in the cards for a newhire. I have flown with a few 88 captains that were going to the right seat of the 777 so it's like a 10 year effort.

As far as the QOL, I think that seat has large blocks of time off but on the flip side, has large blocks of times on and gone.
 
ATL taking it in shorts. Lots of 76 CA & FO displacements with no replacement flying. Unless you are senior in your category in ATL you are about to become junior, or worse, bumped out of ATL altogether. Pretty disheartening after 9 years at D that I will be junior on the maddog in ATL. On the plus side - I have a job.
 
How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?
 
How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?
Depends on what you mean by "forced". If NYC based 777 pilots want to stay on the airplane they will have to either displace to ATL or DTW as their seniority allows or not. Otherwise, they can displace to anything system wide where someone is junior to them in the category, except 747-400 which is fenced for DAL-N .

Technically, if there were insufficient DAL-S bidders for the new DTW 777 positions it could be awarded to a DAL-N pilot regardless of the fence. I don't see that happening.
 
How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?

IF and thats a big IF there arent sufficient bidders for a fenced position than the other side would be able to bid for the unfilled positions.

I dont see this happening though because I'm sure enough people will bid it.
 
make sure that you have your vd's md' in order because with about 5000 total movements everthing that isn't fenced will probably have some openings.
 
Anyone know what the pay credit is for a training now? We DAL-N guys used to get 80 hours? Whats the DAL-S way?
 
Anyone know what the pay credit is for a training now? We DAL-N guys used to get 80 hours? Whats the DAL-S way?

ALV. When you finish your checkride and are awaiting OE, you are free to bid "high credit" and get the upper limit of the LCW while you wait 6 months for OE on the ER. :beer:
 

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